Analyzing The Dip - Butterfly Kick / Twist Practice

Butterfly kick and twist practice. Needless to say, I need more practice!

Including an analysis of the "dip".

Please note that movements were exaggerated for demonstration purposes.

Exhibit A demonstrates the dip at or above the horizontal plane.
A1) Lower Body Full Squat (Horse) Position
A2) Upper Body Maintains At or Above Horizontal
A3) Back Remains Straight & Engaged

Exhibit B demonstrates the dip below the horizontal plane.
B1) Upper Body Dips Below Horizontal Plane
B2) More Difficult to Hit Full Squat Position
B3) Difficult to Keep the Back Straight & Engaged

My Analysis:

I believe dipping below the horizontal plane, although more difficult, is technically correct.

It requires a more explosive jump and strong lower back muscles.

The lower the dip below horizontal, the more control required to maintain momentum for the jump.

2008 Butterfly Kick Films
http://butterflykick.com

Category:

Science & Technology

Tags:

• butterfly
• kick
• twist
• dip
• wushu
• jumps
• tricks
• flips
• alex
• ng
• analysis

[ItsAllJustMovement]

It actually is all about coordination, and using your big toe to make all your leg muscles engage and shoot you into the air, in turn giving you maximum height so you can elongate your core so you can spin in perfectly. This video has good advice, but for a true b twist learn from a wushu teacher, for real!!!

[ngstylez]

@ItsAllJustMovement Sure, everything is about coordinating your whole body to work together.

[888167]

man your b twist are one on the nicest i've ever seen....

one question.

it u start this move is it better to do a butterfly kick and spin on the highest point like u do it here or is it better to twist from the beginning??

thank you

[ngstylez]

@888167 Hey, thanks! That's a good question. Generally, it is told that you should initiate with the butterfly kick and then twist because when people start learning, they forget to jump and twist too early causing their height to be very low. So if you start with the butterfly kick (at least the right leg kicks up same as the butterfly), and then the left leg meets it to spin... you you would get at least the height of your butterfly.

[888167]

@ngstylez I'll try that thank you!

one more question:

your spin. Does it come from your legs or more from your arms?

on what do u focus more, apart from the dip and the jump?

I've done B twist into the sand several times now but my landing isn't like yours...

If I spin with my arms the twist is fast but I can't land the right way.

If i spin with my legs I can't jump as high as a b-kick.....

I would post u a vid, but I made it with my I pod and I don't know wether you can watch it...

[ngstylez]

@888167 Hey dude, hope your practice has been progressing. The act of looking over your left shoulder naturally causes your body to start turning... but I guess the torque of the spin comes from your arms more than the legs. If your body's trajectory wasn't correct in the original jump though, it will be hard to spin even if you bring your arms in hard and tight. I'm sure you've gotten pass that by now and realized what works for you. Good luck!

[Newmage]

I need to keep my legs straight, but I don't wanna straighten them so much to where if I land i'll hyperextend something.

A guy I know did this with a 540 and apparently he could do those pretty well.

[ngstylez]

@K4lr0b It's probably both. Surely flexibility would help. Straighter legs for the butterfly kick depends on your concept of "straight". You can have them straight and not be lifted, which doesn't look as good. If your hips are low, trying to get them to be straight up for the kick would be difficult as well. So technique wise, if you can get a good push off the ground and raise your hips to be parallel with the ground, you'll be able to straighten your legs easier.

[K4lr0b]

How do you get straight legs during a b-kick?? It has something to do with flexibility or with technique??

[K4lr0b]

I will practice until I get it right!! first with the b-kick and then the b-twist!!

Thanks 4 the tips man!!