Did Paul Invent Christianity--Shabir Ally Vs W. Forward

Did Paul Invent Christianity--Shabir Ally Vs W. Forward

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[doyanrujak]

Peter, a disciple of Jesus of Nazareth, said about Paul:

" Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother PAUL also wrote you with THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are HARD TO UNDERSTAND, which IGNORANT and UNSTABLE people DISTORT, as they do the other Scriptures, to THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION. "

- 2 Peter 3:15-16

[Nazam44]

@doyanrujak This is why the vast majority of Christians scholars don't believe that Peter wrote 2 Peter. Paul letters were not seen as scripture during his own life time, only after his death. Please see Raymond Brown, An Introduction to the New Testament.

[Nazam44]

@doyanrujak Many things have been attributed falsely to Peter such as the Gospel of Peter, Acts of Peter. I don't just take anything anyone says that Peter wrote uncritically. 2 Peters is another example in which something has been falsely attributed to Peter, the difference is whereas 2 Peter is in the Bible the others are outside of the Bible.

[hiba729]

salam alaikum....Mashallah shabbir ally iz an awesome muslim apolegetic...quite impressive

[doyanrujak]

@jaga454 "there are diffences even in how jesus died."

- Mark 15:27...."They crucified two robbers with him, one on his right and one on his left."

- John 19:18...."Here they crucified him, and with him two others - one on each side and Jesus in the middle.

Where's the difference? Rejecting what the bible says is already bad for you, don't make it much worse by misleading other people to sin against what's written in it.

[doyanrujak]

@sususoos Read 1 Peter then and believe it.

[sususoos]

@doyanrujak do you know the author of 2 peter ?

peter did not write that book.some body[unknown] wrote it.

[O2streaming]

@doyanrujak If it is true that all people are sinful by nature, then by your argument that "sinful people can't know God," proves then that nobody can ever know God- lol

[odephraimchai]

Paul is the foolish shepherd who get the world the abomination that causes desolation ,that is the word of Paul over the word of the Almighty!

Notice Paul quotes Plato about Jesus falling on him.However,the verse kicking against the goals is about Zeus the Roman god. ALso,check other writing of Paul like 2 cor and more quotes from Plato and others.

[kenteles]

@albusai but i thought the west that consistently attacking muslims?

[albusai]

why muslims worrie so much  and attack so much christianity?

[moeazysgc]

@doyanrujak U said when God(you mean as in Jesus came) came to this world but yet u contradict yourself wasn't Jesus sent by God "his only begotten son"? And if god was here who was Jesus(God) praying to? and last but not least who was he screeming in pain to n saying "My God, my God, Why have u forsaken me! Satan Real did a Number on the False Apostle Paul in His so called Dreams, You only get more Tangled in these Christian Lies! May God Bless u n Show you the light of truth! Amen PEACE!

[killah666786]

@killah666786 hello, i know u wanted a point by point reply from me to explain how the bible was in its original text, first i would like you to see this video, thanks /watch?v=wDrObm8aotM

lukin forward to a reply

[doyanrujak]

@honchoponcho1 - complete blasphemy.

You're just reflecting the condition of the people of this world. When God came to this world, did the people welcomed Him and serve Him? NO, just like you, they accused Him of commiting blasphemy and crucified Him. Sinful people never have the ability to come to God or know Him, let alone serve Him. So Jesus let himself to be sacrificed to redeem those people from their sin.

- complete redemption.