Creative Quotations from Karl Marx for May 5
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@theredscourge You are a simpleton, a useful idiot for your owners.
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@arzoyan How's that human harmony thing working out for you so far, or have you too busy yelling at people to think about it lately?
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@arzoyan Prove it. Show some balls and either share or give away all your stuff, or admit you're just out to get stuff from others without giving in return, and shut the hell up. If you do not believe in property ownership, please come here so I can pay someone to rape you. Your body clearly isn't your own property if you don't believe in private property, so who are you to refuse such a request?
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@theredscourge private property relationship is a socio-historic phenomena , it emerged as direct consequence of primitive technological innovations and social organisation.As technological transformation gears into a higher qualitative stage PRIVATE PROPERTY WILL BE AN OBSOLETE IMPEDIMENT TO FURTHER PROGRESSION OF HUMANITY IN HARMONY AND WISDOM.
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@arzoyan I wouldn't say the sun is anyone's property, unless someone manages to homestead successfully on the sun, and even if they do, it's only a problem if they build an earth sized disc to block out the sun for all of us, which is a ridiculous concept.
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@arzoyan If anything I think the Europeans taking the land by force from the natives is a proof that it is wrong to NOT respect property rights. We all know intrinsically that what the Europeans did was wrong, are you saying it wasn't, because they cannot possibly have land claims, therefore if they try to defend what they see as their land, they're actually aggressing against the Europeans? I don't get what you're trying to say here.
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@theredscourge PRIVATE PROPERTY RELATIONSHIP is the historic evolution of minority class rule and domination. Nothing has intrinsic property characte, it is in social relation of control that "property" becomes as such. Look up to what happened to native inhabitants of Americas , The Europeans with force took all and instituted rules backed with guns to enforce their pillage.CAN YOU CLAIM THAT SUN THE GIVER OF ALL LIFE IS PROPERTY?
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@arzoyan If you believe in property ownership to some degree you are a capitalist to some degree. If you do not, then either you are a hypocrite, or you also believe your own body is not your own property, in which case it would be okay by you people randomly rape each other. If this is the case, it is I who believes your principles to be tyrannical and destructive. If you are a socialist who believes it is okay to use force to take property from others, then I still think you are immoral.
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@arzoyan I think you meant to say that YOU are in a monologue. Capitalism is not a form of government, but a concept of property ownership. This reflects poorly on how much you know. Capital, state, and money are man-made concepts. Money is just a representation of capital, if you weren't already aware. If you believe they are fundamentally tyrannical and destructive, you are a hypocrite unless you follow through and either burn up or giving away your money and possessions.
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@theredscourge You are not in dialogue but a monologue. Freedom and capitalism i are mutualy exclusive principles . Capitalism is MINORITY CLASS RULE. As for your anarcho-capitalist principles its just sands in the air, to distort the TYRANNICAL AND DESTRUCTIVE essence of CAPITAL,STATE, MONEY .
@warriorpri Capitalism is the wage slavery of immense humanity in a politically corrupt,manipulated MARKET SYSTEM OF ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY ,a tyrannical,destructive system to perpetuate poverty and exploitation in the interest of the ruling class. Capitalism from its Genocide of native Americas, mercantile plundering and enslavement of African natives to its Millitaristic rise of European Powers to World wars and Financial serfdom of the world has been a DISASTEROUS minority imposition .
arzoyan 1 year ago 9
@theredscourge 1- Private property rights really is the ruling class monopoly of the Earth for its class interest. 2-Markets are not free or competative but manipulated,distorted and monopolised.3The fundamental exchange is the extraction of the energies of the working class through monetary servitude. Never ever voluntary .. You really need to deepen your comprhension of the politica-economy of capitalism.
arzoyan 1 week ago 3