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Uploaded by on Aug 10, 2008

100 miles 5.94 gals 16.83 mpg no hho
100mi 5.1 gal 19.6 mpg 1 lpm hho
100mi 4.85 20.61 mpg 2 lpm

at 2 lpm thats exta 60 miles per tank no other mods.

been asked why steam can be bad.
My thought: steam isnt doing it itself. Its a combination of lean condition and excess oxygen. when you lean the afr it looses the protection boundry of the fuel. which transfers heat to piston faster. also when you compress fuel and water mist it can become somewhat abrasive. I cant say it is steam alone but have seen too much water or steam injection deteriorates top of piston and spark plug ground stap.
If any one has any more knowledge on too much steam please add to comments.
I have seen in industrial setteing the use of super heated steam as a super effective material stripping device.

Again my statements on too much steam is what I have experienced and witnessed in my field. I have sucessfully used water-methanol injection on super-turbocharged and high compression engines with great results. Friends and customers have done it also but didnt do it in moderation and that is when I found rapid piston damage occur.

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  • No carb mods, filling the gas tank scientifically. Excellent. I have posted a video I made, your MPG increases are intriguing and have me questioning my video. Any chance your energy consciousness is leading to a less heavy foot?

  • Great video. You made a valid point. This comment area is not enough space for an intelligent area. I will make a video on my theory on why I get my results. I love the honesty. I think alot of people may be caught off guard on my respose. I was triing to lead up to the point but see It cant wait. thanks again es2008

    keep tuned

  • intelligent answernot area

  • Nice work, looking forward to future posts.

    But why expend all the energy to the bandaid fixs, and go straight to megasquirt and tune to determine max benefit of hho potential and tune parameters for lpm hho generated and engine size config?

    Also with megasquirt mpg and engine load can be more easily and scientifically determined. The parameter for tuning can be applied to the bandaid approach.

  • 99% of viewers already are using bandaids and dont have know how on stand alone. I am tring to prepare the viewer for a very big step in this tech. I have proven many times over factory programing is always rich. I have taken a 2005 corrola that got 33 mpg hwy and bumped it up to 51mpg with computer alone. no hho. all engines are differnt and have diff. volumetric efficiencys. I just want to show examples of benifit of stand alone compared to bandaids. just want to prove my ideas thats all

  • Congrats HP.

    An increase from 16 to 20 mpg is 5 stars in my book. Keep up the good work.

    Peace,

    Steve aka AH

  • Thanks. It seems to good to be true. I was the sceptic. One day i did a wire cell with welding rod an baking soda lit it and was hooked for life. This stuff is very powerfull. Even after seeing the power I still was like yourself and wasnt totally convinced. Now I am a believer. ( my spelling sucks sorry) any way dont let the negative hype or failed results get anyone down. Every vehicle is differtnt thats where im here to help you all suceed. god bless

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  • youtube.com/watch?v=GaVCBJ4Bag­k&NR=1

    check this1 to get rid off Steam ;]

  • I forgot something. Try your test with higher octane fuel and see what you get.

  • Sounds like to me that your engine without hho is detonating hence the the lower milage. When you inject water, you stop some of the detonation, hence the increase in milage. They used water injection on B-17's in WWII to inhibate detonation because of high manifold pressures because of superchargers, they got more power becuase the engine was not detonating because of water inject.

  • @higherpoweredh2o are there any downsides to doing that? isnt the optimal air fuel ratio 14:1 and the computer runs closed loop to keep it at that

  • nice job on test. When you say this. "Again my statements on too much steam is what I have experienced and witnessed in my field. I have sucessfully used water-methanol injection on super-turbocharged and high compression engines with great results. Friends and customers have done it also but didnt do it in moderation and that is when I found rapid piston damage occur." Are you useing steam injection?

  • You going to try a bigger alternator?

  • Rob, i am in canby and have built a dry cell which is currently putting out 2 liters a min at 30 amps.Where are you located?I want to put this in my 2001 ranger and i also have a 2.8 liter 85 blazer (carburated)that i also want to try it on although it runs a bit rough now (need to see what's wrong with it)hope you get message thanks

  • very good data gathering, well done. This is encouraging. As far as steam goes, one of the byproducts of hydrocarbon burn is in fact water. How much is too much? from testing more than 15% of total intake volume would be too much imho. The hard part is controlling the injection method of the water, cold vapor, steam at a lower temp due to lower pressure, doesn't seem to be ill affected by that mix, unless you accidental pump 2 litres of water into the engine in a minute, grin whoops.

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