APS Announces New Solar Power Plant, Among World's Largest

PHOENIX -- Arizona Public Service Co. (APS) today announced plans for one of the world's largest solar facilities - a 280-megawatt (MW) concentrating solar power (CSP) plant to be built 70 miles southwest of Phoenix, in Gila Bend, Ariz. The Solana Generating Station will produce enough energy to serve 70,000 APS customers when operating at full capacity. The plant will be built by Abengoa Solar Inc., and is scheduled to provide renewable energy beginning in 2011. Spanish for "sunny place," Solana will not emit greenhouse gases and will provide APS with more solar electricity per customer than any utility in the U.S. The facility also would be the largest solar power plant in the world if in operation today. (Video: Business Wire)

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[feelytouchy67]

I like this, as anything that uses the sun and wind and waves etc. is the way the go.

But I would really like to see something on solar. non-electric refrigeration.

Back in the late 90's, a fellow in Lineville, Alabama, built a solar powered refrigeration device. The sun's heat was used to compress amorphous ammonia in the day. At night the compressed ammonia expanded --imitating a "normal" refrigerator/freezer. It produced huge ice blocks.

[cavemanillustrations]

Amazing!

[getdusty1]

This sure makes my 10.5 kilowatt system, 48 panel single pole array look puny!!

[danc0nia]

@tnguyen318 Concentrated solar power (parabolic trough collectors)

[tnguyen318]

That's not a Solar Panel. It's what we call an oversize square Solar Strip on your Solar Calculator.

[aloisgault]

@tnguyen318  Steam troughs.

[tnguyen318]

Is it solar panels or Photo Voltaic panels? Because if they operate like a calculator, it's light not the sun. And Light is abundant everywhere during the day time.

[88888FORCE]

Google

Is Building the World's Largest

Solar Tower Power Plant

April-12-2011---Google is investing $168 million to help develop a solar energy power plant in California's Mojave Desert.

In cooperation with Brightsource energy, Google's official blog states that the new plant will hopefully generate 392 gross megawatts of solar power, or "the equivalent of taking more than 90,000 cars off the road over the lifetime of the plant,"

[henrykay01]

@ctk1234 Physical proof, not mathematical. I can send it to you - you have to be familiar with the Maxwell's equations to understand it. My email address is in my contact box.

[ctk1234]

@henrykay01 Not to be rude. I just don't believe you're making an accurate claim. You may have made a nifty device there, but don't walk around telling people it violates the 1st law. That surely will get you nowhere. Now if it uses solar power, or wind (solar) or some other source to explain the "prepetual motion," that's one thing.

If you are stating that dE is not Q-W for your system, I'd love to see your mathematical proof! It would baffle the physics community.

[ctk1234]

@henrykay01 The only one that would agree would be heisenberg. If you are talking quantum events, or energy mass relations, then yes. Otherwise, it simply doesn't happen that way man. If it did, the whole idea of entropy would be phony.

Carnot simply proved if you invest x energy into a system, you can get UP TO x out, but never x. This deficit is thanks to entropy, or irreversibilities.

So are you suggesting that the total entropy of your system decreases through a cycle?

[henrykay01]

@ctk1234 No. I discovered a group of phenomena which violate the law of energy conservation. Top physicists knew about it since 1861, but it is a well-kept secret.