Antonio Salieri - Sinfonia Veneziana
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Reading the exchange between @Sviolinist and @veleglas is interesting to say the least. But I might say one point. It can be unequivocally stated that Mozart's music is far more complex than Salieri's. I, myself, enjoy Salieri's works and I come here to listen to him often, but there is actually very little comparison in the musical world for Mozart's works--not even Beethoven, Bach, Corelli, Vivaldi, or Handel reach such complexity. But complexity doesn't always spell perfection--as I know.
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half of you searched this video after Amadeus ( so did I), and now we have here great musical experts claiming that Salieri is mediocrity and Mozart is incarnation of God... the fact is that you know shit
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This Salieri composition is in certain way amusing to listen. It has been played and also sounds better then the notes on the musicpaper are. There are a lot of unlogical or missing harmonic progressions. I've got trained ears but I think even with no musical traing everybody feels the music is not round.
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@ferdinando1945 They did that because he was always a step behind Mozart and he even admitted it himself.
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@Sviolinist 1."The mathematics of Salieri's composition are not correct." This is just becouse of your Mozart trained hearing. His compositions are not correct too, but you do not notice it becouse of istablished paradigm, that you have brought up from childhood. Now everything is changed and reinterpreted, but you probably do not understand it.
2.Well, are you excited about your IQ? Congratulations, Mr. brilliant listener. In this case, the conversation can indeed be considered complete.
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@veleglas Listen to this piece at around 1 minute. Listen to what happens after this point. It doesn't develop as it should. The mathematics of Salieri's composition are not correct. If you don't understand what this means then you are not a composer, but just someone who spouts opinions.
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@Sviolinist It is not obvious, because unprovable. Unequal forces, and not because Salieri's "mediocrity", but because of Mozart - two hundred years of worship and perfected thousands of interpretations of his music. At the time, as Salieri is just beginning to be studied. Variants of his works - units.However, this concerns not only Salieri, but all those contemporaries, which dipped to highlight Mozart. But soon maybe it becomes clear who is actually a "genius" and who - "mediocrity."
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@Sviolinist well personally, i dont think anyone should judge either mozart or salieri's compositions until they can prove themselves to be capable of producing music even close in quality. There is nothing mediocre about salieri, or mozart, one just happen to get luckier with people remembering his name.
Regrettably I saw the movie before knowing about Salieri.
I think he was an amazing composer, why did they make him appear like stupid beside Mozart ???..........
ferdinando1945 6 months ago 18
@Sviolinist It obviously does to you, but you must remember that your opinion is purely your own.
There's no doubt Salieri's music is somewhat unsophisticated compared to Mozart's, but there is a real wholeness of style in Salieri that appeals to many.
It does no-one any good to become to elitist and closed minded.
Personally I love Salieri's music as much is Mozart's, but for different reasons.
People who disagree with you are not interested in your opinion. Get over it.
wks1978 3 months ago 2