Is Data Alive
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@milesbennettdyson In all fairness Data and the doctor are unique. They gathered sentience over time. the other EMHs may have as well put that has yet to be determined.
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@milesbennettdyson I guess some Federation lawyer figured this trial set a precedent for androids... and thought he could get away with something on a technicality by pointing out the distinction between an android and a hologram .
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This is the trouble the EU is having right now they are taking a drastic leap forward now is that too soon for us maybe maybe not! The problem I have here is we Humans are one race not many we should all be legitimately living in the same conditions all over the world as we do in Britain and America! Charity money doesn't exist lets just bring everyone to Europe and America from the poorest of Countries and give them the better Life they deserve!
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@stubert311 I don't recall any episodes Roddenbury wrote. He was a producer, and had a team of directors who chose stories from a pool of tales from many writers. TNG expanded (as the original did with the movies) because of new people's ideas, stories, and characters. In spite of what some people believe, I think JJ Abrams' reboot of the TOS days very well done. It's imagery was new and inventive. I liked ST: Enterprise too, think it was sadly under-rated. Long live the re-incarnations
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This episode should have been called The Turing Test.
This is why I love star trek. It handles deep philosophical questions. To quote Isaac Asimov:
"Science fiction is an existential metaphor, that allows us to tell stories about the human condition."
Science Fiction/fantasy is unique in that it allows us to use story telling to examine the meaning of our own humanity, and to look inward, and determine what it means to truly be a human being.
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@AeronPeryton True...my only problem with the Voayger ep was that they didn't bring up Data's hearing.It would have been an important fact for the Doctor's side in his own hearing.
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@milesbennettdyson Data was not a hologram, this hearing and other things dealt with him exclusively. When the EMH was created, it was assumed to be an ordinary hologram, no different from the untold multitudes that were created on a holodeck day after day. But he became different. And because of that the Doctor got his own hearing late in the Voyager series and he too was declared no ordinary creation. Though the acting wasn't nearly as good...
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The maturity of this scene was so far ahead of its time, even for Star Trek. A show that constantly upset people by how shamelessly it kept pushing a little bit further than most were willing to go on certain issues. The acting was brilliant, by everyone not just Patrick Stewart. The writing sucks you in and doesn't let go until the scene is over. The ending wasn't neat and tidy. The judge didn't say rule that Data was alive, she simply said he deserved a choice. There should have been Emmys.
2:03
Data: "We were.... intimate."
Judge: "Holy shit, you can do that? My chambers, NOW!"
;-)
st8pl8guy 5 months ago 19
This very scene is why I was always so pissed off about the use of the Doctor on Voyager--it's like they didn't learn anything from Data except to create less-perfect slaves (Doctor version 1, Picardo's character). There's even a scene late in the series where all the Doctor-slaves are shown toiling away in some dank mine. Very un-Federation, if you ask me.
milesbennettdyson 11 months ago 14