Is UPCI a Cult? (David Bernard vs. Robert Morey 7/7)

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[neronei]

This is best debate I have heard so far and very instructive.I find that David Bernard has produced more biblical evidence with a firm defense regarding the sign of the Spirit of Yeshua as a necessity as to having had received the promise of salvation. For if one speaks in tongues or is baptized in His Name He is not automatically saved, but only if he/she walks with and obeys the Spirit of Yeshua until the end then he/she shall be saved

Rom 8:1; Mat 7:21-23; Rev 2:10; 3:5,3:12.

Great post!

[FalseTrinityDoctrine]

Amen

[NATVSON1]

If there is a Trinity, and this Triune Godhead exists. How come Jesus refers to God as his Father, when if fact the scripture tells us that it was the Holy Ghost, who came upon Marry during the immaculate conception. So technically, (If there is a 'Trinity') than the Holy Spirit is the true Father of Jesus Christ.

[imtellinchuck]

I am neither a member of Dr. Moreys Reformed Church nor Rev. Bernards United Pentecostal Church. In listening to these two men, I can only say that Rev. Bernards position not only resonated deeply with me as the more Biblically correct of the two, but if I had to CHOOSE which man to follow, I would have to choose the one who CONSISTENTLY appealed to the SCRIPTURES rather than the one who repeatedly appealed to HISTORICAL Christianity, Creeds & theologians. Where can I find out more about oneness

[evozro]

Wow! What an awesome debate! David Bernard clearly had this in the bag. Well done David Bernard. I don't know, but for me listening to Morey in this debate he lacked scriptural backing, i loved how Bernard kept referring back to the scriptures to prove his point, and he did a great job as always. Blessings in the Wonderful Name of our One and Only God and Savior - Jesus Christ!

[BibleFrW]

-The Son has a beginning: Pro 8.22-30 (God has never been without wisdom). The Son is not the Father, but he is ANOTHER HIMSELF of the ONE that is the Father (a double): Luke 6.12; John 14.9a “I”, “Me”; the Holy Spirit too: Ro 8.27; John 14.16 “OTHER”.

-Le fils a un début: Pro 8.22-30 (Dieu n'a jamais été sans sagesse). Le Fils n'est pas le Père, mais il est UN AUTRE LUI-MÊME de CELUI qui est le Père (double): Luc 6,12; Jn 14.9a "JE", "M'AS"; le Saint-Esprit également: Ro 8,27; Jn 14,16 "AUTRE".

[TheDarkstar3601]

@NATVSON1 @NATVSON1 FATHER = ALMIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER  SON = FATHER) manifested into FLESH HOLY SPIRIT = FORM of the FATHER

Matthew 28:19

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the NAME(singular) of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST:

[soulsurcher]

We aren't politicians we're Christians!!! This is what politicians do. Faith, hope, love is what Christians do!! We shall know them by their fruit!

[JesusIsOnTheThrone]

...parts of the ''godhead''? I don't have all the answers, none of us do. We, like Job, weren't there at the foundation of the earth. We understand only basics for now. I believe with all sincerity that if a human seeks the Lord with ALL of his heart without ulterior motives, He will lead that human to His kingdom and save that soul from perishing. What doctrine adhered to and what church that human attends will not interfere. John 10:27-30.

[JesusIsOnTheThrone]

Is there one throne in heaven or three? If there is only one, who does it belong to? Isaiah 49:26 says that God is our saviour/redeemer Is there one saviour or two? Isaiah 59:15-21. God's own arm brought salvation. He redeemed us unto Himself, there was no pre-existing being sent to do His job for Him according to the bible. It is pretty clear-cut to me. The Lord God is one, He manifested as a bush, a man, spake through an animals, prophets, angels does that mean there are more than three....

[mikgorblack]

Awesome job Dr Bernard! There are so many people that should hear this debate, and the way it was presented. I agree that you really can hear an anointing power when you speak.

[Ragemwaters08]

Just want to say Rev. Barnard you did a wonderful job keeping calm under the circumstance. At times I could hear the anointing in your voice and it got me excited about Jesus De Christo! I know how hard it is to keep your tone even and voice low when the holy ghost moves on you. haha keep up the good work!