@susumu07 I'm not a fan of Shajarin at all I'm afraid, however a big fan of Nazeri. What appeals to me most about Lotfi is the quality of his voice (deep, unlike both Shajarian and Nazeri) and as you said the Darvish style of singing, which sounds very natural and heartfelt. Also I don’t know about the “political traitor” side of things and couldn’t care less to be honest.
more than Shajarian or Nazeri???? I doubt it. Lotfi's biggest talent is Tar. His second is setar. But his singing is nowhere near as good as his instrumentals. It's that dervish style of singing which doesn't take a huge amount of talent but lots of training. But Shajarian and even Nazeri have much better voice. My main point was Lotfi is not some political "traitor", he's just a VERY talented musician who did what it took to survive some VERY turbulent times in Iran.
Lotfi is a great musician and living legend, the only thing I don't like about him is when he started singing and even though he's certainly a top-notch Tar player, he's a VERY MEDIOCRE singer. He has a rough singing voice, he lost a lot of fans that way. But it has NOTHING to do with politics.
Don't diss Lotfi, he is NOT motreb. He was never Tudeie either.
And back during Shah times, you HAD to act like a "shahi" if you wanted radio stations to play your music and if you wanted to even stay in business.
Shajarian also had to do this, but in the revolution he showed his true resentment of the shah, but then he got disillusioned with the IR as well, so that now he doesn't even want them playing his music.
People who don't understand history like to imagine that everyone's a traitor.
Art is created to provide aesthetic appeal to its audience. It is evident that this song provokes the listener's senses.
A work of art must not be judged based on its complexity, but rather its appeal/meaning. Often, the simplest songs are the most elegant and appealing because they allow the musician to present his feelings in a direct manner.
Complex songs often pollute this medium of expression.
Therefore, it is important to not judge a work of art ....
hi ! I beleive Lotfi is a degraded corrupt tar player, he has been made famous because the previous regime gave him so much opportunity without deserving it. he was first pro Shahi after revolution he became a Tudeie and in LA he changed into a dervish.and now he is stunt supporter of this inhuman regime of the mollahs. he is playing for khamenei while he smokes opium. so in this respect he is a motreb! musicians should be committed to their people and echo their cry.
With all due respect, it sounds like a novice playing a few cliche (tekrary) melodies.
goodcyrus 6 months ago
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sam683or 1 year ago
@susumu07 I'm not a fan of Shajarin at all I'm afraid, however a big fan of Nazeri. What appeals to me most about Lotfi is the quality of his voice (deep, unlike both Shajarian and Nazeri) and as you said the Darvish style of singing, which sounds very natural and heartfelt. Also I don’t know about the “political traitor” side of things and couldn’t care less to be honest.
InnerflamesUnLtd 1 year ago
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more than Shajarian or Nazeri???? I doubt it. Lotfi's biggest talent is Tar. His second is setar. But his singing is nowhere near as good as his instrumentals. It's that dervish style of singing which doesn't take a huge amount of talent but lots of training. But Shajarian and even Nazeri have much better voice. My main point was Lotfi is not some political "traitor", he's just a VERY talented musician who did what it took to survive some VERY turbulent times in Iran.
susumu07 1 year ago
@susumu07 I would have to disagree; his voice is very powerful and captivating.
InnerflamesUnLtd 1 year ago
Lotfi is a great musician and living legend, the only thing I don't like about him is when he started singing and even though he's certainly a top-notch Tar player, he's a VERY MEDIOCRE singer. He has a rough singing voice, he lost a lot of fans that way. But it has NOTHING to do with politics.
susumu07 2 years ago
Don't diss Lotfi, he is NOT motreb. He was never Tudeie either.
And back during Shah times, you HAD to act like a "shahi" if you wanted radio stations to play your music and if you wanted to even stay in business.
Shajarian also had to do this, but in the revolution he showed his true resentment of the shah, but then he got disillusioned with the IR as well, so that now he doesn't even want them playing his music.
People who don't understand history like to imagine that everyone's a traitor.
susumu07 2 years ago
... based on its complexity, but rather based on the emotional effect that it has on you.
Calling this song 'primitive' is certainly a poor choice of words.
Hoomanmohammadi76 2 years ago
I have to agree with TheActualBij.
Art is created to provide aesthetic appeal to its audience. It is evident that this song provokes the listener's senses.
A work of art must not be judged based on its complexity, but rather its appeal/meaning. Often, the simplest songs are the most elegant and appealing because they allow the musician to present his feelings in a direct manner.
Complex songs often pollute this medium of expression.
Therefore, it is important to not judge a work of art ....
Hoomanmohammadi76 2 years ago
hi ! I beleive Lotfi is a degraded corrupt tar player, he has been made famous because the previous regime gave him so much opportunity without deserving it. he was first pro Shahi after revolution he became a Tudeie and in LA he changed into a dervish.and now he is stunt supporter of this inhuman regime of the mollahs. he is playing for khamenei while he smokes opium. so in this respect he is a motreb! musicians should be committed to their people and echo their cry.
sohaihstar 2 years ago