Ideology IV: Temperament and Ideology

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We often believe people behave a certain way because of socio-economic status or race. But how much of how we see the world is about our temperament?

GUESTS

George Lakoff is a professor of cognitive linguistics, especially the neural theory of language, at the University of California, Berkeley. His focus is on the application of cognitive and neural linguistics to politics, literature, philosophy and mathematics.

John T. Jost is professor of Psychology at New York University. His research interests include prejudice, ideology, political psychology, and the theory of system justification. He is the co-editor of Political Psychology: Key Readings.

Christina Tarnopolsky is assistant professor in Political Philosophy at McGill University and author of Prudes, Perverts, and Tyrants: Plato's Gorgias and the Politics of Shame.

Jacob Hirsh is a doctoral researcher in Psychology at the University of Toronto.

Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist, a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, and author of Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief. Visit his web site.

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[tstruss912]

Conservatives are introverted sensors (primary or secondary) on the MBTI scale. That thought process is why they want things "in their place".

[sarcee1960]

Really appreciate this upload. It was interesting to hear the many points of view from every expert. They all made excellent points and got me thinking more deeply about ideology.

[todanp]

@EndTheDenial

Yeah it's probably stage makeup. But done badly

[peeklip]

Anyway, fut that Ayn Rand bullshit...

[peeklip]

addendum:

Lackoff was right to point it out as prop-agenda. Those whom control language control us. Welcome to the ideology war and the rise of Rove's republic. Feel the potency of Proprietary Capitalism, predatory deregulation and privatized EVERYTHING. ˙˙˙sǝıʇןɐǝɹ pǝʇɐıpǝɯ ɹnoʎ oʇ ʞɔɐq 'ʍou

[peeklip]

The Blake Hurst quote @ 22:57 is stolen from Robert A. Heinlein- a BASTARDIZED version of, Specialization is for Insects:

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.

[MarmaladeINFP]

I would agree to your use of "natural". I consider practices that align with "natural" human tendencies are "good", "superior" even. Certain manifestations of human behavior are natural because they are more closely similar to the behavior manifest in human societies that exhibit lifestyles similar to the period of time when humans first evolved. As far as I can tell, the monotheistic tradition of Strict Father childrearing is very different from the childrearing practices of hunter-gatherers.

[MarmaladeINFP]

@QuarrymanCzech Words such as "superior" imply an evaluative judgment, but they don't necessarily equate to a moral value categorization especially not in the morally absolute sense. My meaning was merely relativistic. I pointed out it's relative to the value in relation to which one is judging. Lakoff seems to be clear in what types of behavior he considers relatively "superior" which is opposite the trauma and acting out that results from the violent punishments of Strict Father childrearing.

[QuarrymanCzech]

@MarmaladeINFP So I think that Lakoff is not arguing, that "nurturing parent model" is simply "superior" (from an ethical point of view). He's too much a scientist for that. I'd rather say that he claims, that the nurturing parent model of ethics is for us (humans) more "natural", because it's based on empathy, and humans have the predisposition for empathy (thanks to the existence of mirror neurons). But again, to judge "natural" as "better" would be an ethical (non objective) judgment...