Tucson: Descent Into Madness

"60 Minutes" talks to Jared Loughner's friends and classmates and to ex-Secret Service, to reconstruct the pathway to mass murder he allegedly took in Tucson. Scott Pelley reports.

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[Cirvantes123]

@MoonAharshMistress I think you need to be where Jared Loughner is right now. In an institution.

[MoonAharshMistress]

3. I mean youve got A (S)ecret (S)ervice ANGE L (ASSANGEL...ASSANGE ..geddit??...Doh! ) and another mentally ill ass-angel kept back a loner who just happens to be called Loner and so it goes on. Providing a back story? .lol. what do they write their stories on ? the back of a f ag packet (F A G packet...geddit....f ag etc...f ag packet...geddit..) ..that,ll fool ‘em...just give the most intelligent men & women of the world a good ‘backstory’ ,

[MoonAharshMistress]

2.later using the media and all the other installations. Otherwise people might think he was a drugged up prisoner by Pfizer who came out of nowhere sent to shoot organised crime enemies.

What I’l never get over, is they call anyone who figures them out “committing espioinage” and trade jokes about it to ingratiate themselves to their gangster masters.lol. And yet they code name everything “hidden in plain view” and a trafficking web site for the world to see..

[MoonAharshMistress]

“Providing the backstory for the secret service”- well they’ve got to pretend to the sitting administration that he has a history composed of friendships (with other military twinks) cos that Loner ( sic) must have been sequestered for years. They commit the crime and then work backwards- pretending pasts, backdating dates of publications etc and so on.

The important thing is they get the crime done- the alibi can always be made up

[MoonAharshMistress]

@eclecticfire73. Interesting. (pfizer @ 14:14) Befor the shooting, around the time they were threatening GIffords, the Bullseye graphic had the heading " Weve ''diagnosed'' the problem, help us ''prescribe'' the solution". That would definately fit with the Pfizer theory...its practically admitting they were planning to kill Giffords by proxy, along pharmaceutical lines.

[eclecticfire73]

mind and memory would be well & truly chemically lobotomised. There will be no greater pusher  for the death sentence for loner than his handlers.So where does that leave the truth- can it all be ascertained by the visitors?

They could turn up to visit him, ask him a few questions, sure...but what does that really prove.? He must be a nutcase ? The handlers are controlling an assassin? No-one really cares about the chicken and the egg- just as long as it strikes them right?

[eclecticfire73]

deal of 'political' opposition. Pychiatrists would be called to the stand to say "Weve diagnosed Loughner with X, Y and Z...loughner needs to remain at our facility for his own safety....loughner needs to be cared by our specific doctors..loughner needs our specific medecine only we can give" etc etc etc.

The Obama administration could wade through all the road blocks and still be no nearer getting an answer out of loughner that THEY could believe in- it may take years by which time Loners

[eclecticfire73]

Not many people would argue with the rationale of 'calming down' a man who has just shot scores of innocent people, would they? Not to mention, members of the Obama admiinstration whilst denied access to Loner generally, almost certainly would be denied complete control & access over him in his raw state- free of all administerings of long-term acting chemicals. Even if they wanted to detain Loner themselves, long term, in order to get the truth out of him- i expect they would face a mighty

[eclecticfire73]

Once hes in jail, of course, then he is given different medication that will make him catatonic .. and thus theres never the liability that he could have a lucid moment in which to speak out. To any visiting personnel, It wouldnt seem a strange, out of place thing to drug a spree killer up to the eyeballs with a catatonia inducing drug, because the argument goes that he was insane at the moment of the attack, so he must be organically insane generally. This keeps everyone off the scent.

[eclecticfire73]

mind, can buy it.

One could get an assassin to go berserk with a short acting drug of course, but then Loner would recover quickly, and psychosis would subside, making it look very suspicious. But there are now developments in anti-pychotic medecine- injections given- that can last up to a month or more- many schizophrenics are given them. You can be guarranteed that if a pharma company has developed the technology for the anti-dote, then they will have month long measures of the dote, also.