Which Way to Revolution? Socialist Party and Ian Bone pt.1

Debate filmed 20/09/2008. Howard Moss (Socialist Party) and Ian Bone (founder of 'Class War')

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• socialism
• anarchism
• marxism
• communism
• democracy
• capitalism

[Baconskank]

Is this the Socialist Party that is linked to the CWI International ??? Does anyone know ???

[pfbcarlisle]

@Baconskank

Hi,

No, it's the SPGB - Socialist Party of Great Britain, (born in 1904)

[pfbcarlisle]

Yeah, that's it ;>) No worries ...

Hope you enjoyed it.

[pfbcarlisle]

Er, not exactly "vs the Trots" ...!

[MarxBakuninMe]

I know, I got the wrong party.

I actually got some info from them a few weeks back, but didn't pay much attention to it because I thought it was the Trot group; came across it again and realised my mistake. I might go to one of their meetings perhaps.

[Baconskank]

@pfbcarlisle Thankyou for the reply, I should have listened to Ian more closely at the start when he explains his nice-ometer ... seems pretty accurate to me...

[majorMcpharter]

Let us all help to speed the day when this wonderful earth and its rich resources are held in common.World of free access.

[Baconskank]

Excellent debate here I think both groups raised important points, liked the SPGB emphasis on not pissing the middle class off too much with excessive talk of violence although accept Class War stance on The Middle Class proping up the system and the need for violence at some stage although not desirable. Both Parliamentary efforts AND direct action must be used.... Also liked what Ian said about a State not withering away... Thankyou for improving my way of thinking on these grey areas.

[Baconskank]

@pfbcarlisle Thankyou for the reply, I should have listened more closely to Ian at the start when he explains his nice ometer.... seems pretty acurate to me...

[workergirls]

thanx for sharing*****

[alx617]

@charlesthehammerful Maybe there is a lunatic left wing mooooslim ladyboy conspiracy to take over the UK and impose SHEra law and make all true red blooded males wear dresses and high heels - you better tell your EDL mates and get out on the streets, before it's too late! - fucking jokers

[charlesthehammerful]

@alx617 Of course they needed to happen, there was/is no money left due to years of overspend by the labour goverment and the labour goverment not being tuff with the banks. Where is the money going to come from? The rate at which the rates are being forced on us is shambolic and needs to be addressed. I can't be fucked carrying on with this discussion. You can think I'm a fascist all you want, as I think you're a left-wing lunatic who likes abusing ladyboys. Neither will change our views.