Beethoven Piano Concerto 5 'Emperor' on period instruments (1/4)
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Beethoven is not romantic or classical. Beethoven is Beethoven.
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@altyair Haha! I love it. Talk some sense into the dismal would-be musicologists who cannot seem to grasp the fact that Beethoven is Beethoven and that he is far too Large and sublimly defiant to be placed into one of their little boxes.
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Beethovens early music is 100% classical---when he entered into the 19th century his style became more brooding,more powerful,more dramatic.Some people call it "Romantic"---but Beethoven was just developing his style,and thats it.To be honest,I hear Beethovens music as being more militaristic,more patriotic than romantic----(Remember the tmes he lived in!Gemany was at war with Napoleon,and Beethoven was very nationalistic,and had many friends in the nobility that were his patrons)
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Beethoven had his own genre, Beethovian!
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Get a grip, people ~ Beethoven's output, beginning to end, is resolutely classical ~ uses classical formats, harmonic procedures, aesthetics, no matter how expanded. It strains at the classical perimiters, but never breaks them. He was not at all concerned with an overlap of birth - death dates inconvenient to historic era chapter divides.
Carl Maria von Weber and Schubert were the first early Romantic composers. No one threw out all the 'period' instruments when they began coomposing either.
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The artist offers and the listener likes or not. No need for "chapels" to be sure we do not make mistakes. Resentment lies. If you do not like, you do not listen. It is pointless to be indignant about that. Come on, do not make the "precious disgusted" (Valse pour un précieux dégoûté) to quote Eric Satie, life is so short.
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L'artiste propose et l'auditeur dispose. Pas besoin de chapelles pour être sûr qu'on ne se trompe pas. Le ressentiment ment. Si on n'aime pas, on n'écoute pas. C'est vain de s'indigner pour ça. Allons, ne faites pas les "précieux dégoûtés" pour reprendre Éric Satie, la vie est si courte.
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I'm not musicologist but I can only talk about what I read or heard about it. Schubert is considered as far as I know the first romantic composer. Beethoven is at most heralding romantic music by a more personal and individual expression. The musical form would remain essentially classical as Ellas says. In music, he would invent the German music according to the musicologists but not the romantic one. I suppose the notion of German music refers to the mood of his music. Anyway, it's beautiful.
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At about 5:23, I nearly weep at the beauty of this piece.
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@cubsrule2040 I don't think, mister, Beethoven is consider as a romantic. He is a classical composer with already an individual expression. If I'm right, the first one considered as a romantic composer is Schubert. I don't know exactly when the instruments of music of orchestra was definitely crystalized but at least at the end of the 18° century, it's begun and certainly Mozart, Beethoven and Schubert would still know those instruments of music. The modern piano wasn't existing yet.
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@esteff22 I think that was Symphony no.3, but he later crossed the dedication out when Napoleon proclaimed himself Emperor of the French in May 1804...



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this is romantic, not classical. I don't see why romantic music is played on period instruments
cubsrule2040 2 years ago
1) It is classical not romantic
2) even if it was romantic so what? They still had different instruments
elias12186 2 years ago 13
This concerto's not quite as classical as his first two symphonies or the works of Mozart and Haydn
cubsrule2040 2 years ago
In the strictest definition of romanticism, Beethoven never entered the romantic era. Sure his music has drama, but it follows a classical form.
elias12186 2 years ago 12