A documentary by Rishi Jindal exploring the debate around the death and reincarnation of His Holiness the 16th Karmapa. The film, made in the early 1990's, offers a rare glimpse into the often contradictory and confused view put forth by Shamar Rinpoche regarding the legitamacy of His Holiness Ogyen Trinley Dorje, the 17th Gyalwa Karmapa.
@laurent975 When you look at the history of the Gelupas and what they did to the Kagyupa lineage since centurys and how they all the monastarys tried always to gain power for themself, one will loose all confidence in the tibetan system. How can tibetan Lamas involve the chinese in the recognition process? To get more posibillitys back in Tibet? Check this video out:
The Fake Karmapa: What happened to Orgyen Trinleys eyes?
lifetimenomad108 1 month ago
Dalai Lama never had anything to do with the recognition of Karmapa... Why is it that he had any influence on a lineage that doesn't depend on him and that is older than his ?
Yes Dalai Lama is the king of thibet, but Karmapa is the king of all yogis, what is the point ? Shamarpa and Karmapa have been recognizing each other for centuries. The Dalai Lama has nothing to do with that process.
NeoShadowsBringer 4 months ago
Dalai Lama never had anything to do with the recognition of Karmapa... Why is it that he had any influence on a lineage that doesn't depend on him and that is older than his ?
NeoShadowsBringer 4 months ago
"... a rare glimpse into the often contradictory and confused view put forth by Shamar Rinpoche regarding the legitamacy of His Holiness Ogyen Trinley Dorje,..."
One could just as easily make the teachings of The Buddha seem "contradictory" if one were inclined to do so. By simply picking and choosing quotes out of context and placing them where one likes, one could make most anyone seem erratic and unsound.
derekhanger 4 months ago
very confusing video.
CT2507 5 months ago
yaaawwnnn...zzzzz...
khampa71 7 months ago
yawn
luckyloneranger 8 months ago
Szamarpa Czienno
bogpat 9 months ago 2
HI,
But for the rest of the world, and the various lineages of the Tibetan Buddhism, there is no possible controversy as for Orgyen Trinlé Dorjé's identity as being Karmapa. "
Everybody believe in Karmapa Orgyen everything and all the big master of the Buddhism Tibetan, the leaders of lineages as well as three of four regents of the lineage OF THE KAGYUPAS and the integrality of the Tibetans (More than 99 %.) and of course the Dalai-Lama !
laurent975 9 months ago