@rtyrtyrty123123123 Player strength with a character is not the same as character strength. When discussing tier lists, it comes down to the character's fundamentals and their risk/reward ratio. Example (in T6), Yoshi is a high risk/low reward character while Nina is low risk/ very high reward. You have to look at factors like damage output, speed, safeness, reliability etc. A player can utilize these factors to the fullest, but are ultimately limited by what the character is capable of.
@Gonbebe Not really because the great thing about tekken is there's so many different ways to play with every character so you never know truly what every characters full potential is.
@rtyrtyrty123123123 When tier lists are made it is automatically assumed that each character is being used to their full potential. Player skill isn't a factor in tier lists, it only takes into account which characters are generally more effective than others. That said, every character is viable, but some are much better than others.
@rtyrtyrty123123123 i guess the argument is never gonna end, lol. I respect your opinion while I have my own opinion. I'll just leave it at that. I take back the "saddest part" bullshit in my comment. I guess I was a bit too severe in my comments.
@imania2000 Street fighter isn't exactly the holy grail of character balance, also I'm fairly certain eddy was rated low tier, not that it means anything though.
@rtyrtyrty123123123 well. i just noticed that you made another reply, (as u replied to ur own comment instead of mine), but while Eddy is mid-tier, he's no way in hell as bad as zafina and yoshimitsu. He's a viable character. Players like Misty go far with Eddy in tournaments. Yeah, all characters are serviceable in Casual matches regardless of tiers, but we're talking about tournaments here. Have you seen Dan user winning a major SSF4 tournament? I doubt it.
@imania2000 That's really down to the skill of the user, the characters though all have the potential to win. This isn't like some fighting games of old where choosing a lesser favored character instantly puts you at a disadvantage.
@rtyrtyrty123123123 maybe in some local tournaments, but in high-level japan/korean tournaments, or even in evo, zafina and yoshimitsu users usually don't go far.
1:41 0.0 WTH WAS THAT? PLZ TEACH ME!
21kHzBANK21kHZ 1 day ago
@rtyrtyrty123123123 Player strength with a character is not the same as character strength. When discussing tier lists, it comes down to the character's fundamentals and their risk/reward ratio. Example (in T6), Yoshi is a high risk/low reward character while Nina is low risk/ very high reward. You have to look at factors like damage output, speed, safeness, reliability etc. A player can utilize these factors to the fullest, but are ultimately limited by what the character is capable of.
Gonbebe 1 week ago
@Gonbebe Not really because the great thing about tekken is there's so many different ways to play with every character so you never know truly what every characters full potential is.
rtyrtyrty123123123 1 week ago
@rtyrtyrty123123123 When tier lists are made it is automatically assumed that each character is being used to their full potential. Player skill isn't a factor in tier lists, it only takes into account which characters are generally more effective than others. That said, every character is viable, but some are much better than others.
Gonbebe 1 week ago
Can you escape Ogre's WS2 stun??
negroencarcelado 1 week ago
@rtyrtyrty123123123 i guess the argument is never gonna end, lol. I respect your opinion while I have my own opinion. I'll just leave it at that. I take back the "saddest part" bullshit in my comment. I guess I was a bit too severe in my comments.
imania2000 1 week ago
@imania2000 Street fighter isn't exactly the holy grail of character balance, also I'm fairly certain eddy was rated low tier, not that it means anything though.
rtyrtyrty123123123 1 week ago
@rtyrtyrty123123123 well. i just noticed that you made another reply, (as u replied to ur own comment instead of mine), but while Eddy is mid-tier, he's no way in hell as bad as zafina and yoshimitsu. He's a viable character. Players like Misty go far with Eddy in tournaments. Yeah, all characters are serviceable in Casual matches regardless of tiers, but we're talking about tournaments here. Have you seen Dan user winning a major SSF4 tournament? I doubt it.
imania2000 1 week ago
@imania2000 That's really down to the skill of the user, the characters though all have the potential to win. This isn't like some fighting games of old where choosing a lesser favored character instantly puts you at a disadvantage.
rtyrtyrty123123123 1 week ago
@rtyrtyrty123123123 maybe in some local tournaments, but in high-level japan/korean tournaments, or even in evo, zafina and yoshimitsu users usually don't go far.
imania2000 1 week ago