Mongols-Battle of Mohi

Battle of Mohi(1241) Mongol forces face off with Hungary's last hope for freedom at the flooded river Sajo.

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[womblewandering]

Nice work. i too like to create my own scenarios and have more than the 200 population limit. I have about 1000 soldiers on the screen like you. :)#

In the battle of mohi, the mongols suffered huge casualties under hungarian knights

[niteman555]

@womblewandering i've heard it both ways, but the general consensus was that they simply didn't want to pursue king whatsit, for fear of more casualties or whatever

[Communist1986]

@ninja909 That said, the numbers are made up by this historian, I don't see where I lack logic seriously now. If you like to discuss Mongol defeats, I am here to do so, but Mohi wasn't certainly a big problem for them. I think there is nothing more to say about this topic.

[Communist1986]

@ninja909 I don't think I sound stupid or biased. So far, I have made my point very clear to you. A few thousands Mongoled killed at Mohi? This is just laughable, as the Mongols continued to devastate hungary and pursuit Bela. They even made plans to go further into Europe. With this knowledge in mind, what do you expect me to say? I obviously won't join the Hungarians to chant about the super hungarian soldiers, who saved Europe.

[ninja909]

@Communist1986 they failed to go pursue the remaining forces.

their original plan was. if I must copy and show you I will.

and do you realize how bias and stupid you sound right now? "what? a thousand killed? the mongols couldn't possibly lose over a couple thousand men! that must be false cause the mongols are too skilled!".

honestly, I thought you were a man of logic, not opinion. guess I was wrong?

[Communist1986]

@ninja909 I suppose you mean King Bela? Because the Hungarian army was non-existant at that time. Yeah the king escaped, although I fail to see that has something to do with casualties of the Mongols.

The number given in the article is obviously an overestimation to make the hungarians look better. A few thousand soldiers killed would be too much for the Mongols. I suppose the historian feels better, if he can imagine strong Hungarians beating the shit out of the Mongols. That's kinda sad.

[ninja909]

@Communist1986 the mongols failed to pursue the retreated hungarians like the originally planned actually, due to lack of casualties.

and, you could say the same for any mongol recorder of history.

the number is obviously an estimate. as are all numbers of those killed in battle.

[Communist1986]

Think what you want about Mohi, but the facts are pretty much there. Mongols continued through Europe after Mohi, they didn't retreat. That's the most logical reason that the casualties were pretty normal, and not so huge the Hungarians want to make us believe.

[Communist1986]

No, wikipedia is not reliable if you don't check your sources, and the sources given on the article "battle of Mohi" are crap. In the section "casualties and sources" there is written on the Mongol side "few thousand killed", while we know that Mongol losses are actually unknown. There is no contemporary source for that. And now check the source for this claim below in the article "Liptai, Ervin (1985), Military History of Hungary". That guy is Hungarian and made this up. Enough said.

[ninja909]

@Communist1986 I just dont feel like replying to a page worth of comments.

take it or leave it. and no, I'm reading a book on the crusades. but yes, I've only read up the mongol encounters with Europe on wiki since it's quic and reliable. yes, wiki is most of the time reliable. most of the time. and, we can say the same about mongols exagerating victories, ect. ect. but you have to remember, not all of Europe fought the same way,.

[Communist1986]

@ninja909 Anyway there isn't more to say, if you (or anyone else) is interested in a book about the Mongol Invasion of Europe I recommend the book "The Devil's Horsemen: The Mongol Invasion of Europe" from James Chambers. It has plenty of informations about the battles in that time.

[Communist1986]

Sorry,but after so many replies you did,I don't buy your excuse you "time waisting". Just be a man and admit you don't know much about this, since you didn't give one single fact to me. After all,your knowledge is based on Wiki articles, which you have read in 5 minutes to look up some doubtful informations. And even your beloved Wikipedia says, your Hungarian historians might exaggerate the Mongol losses a bit, if you look closer.