Feasibility of Cryonics Part 1

Cryonics learn more about this facinating subject at
http://www.cryonics.org/

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Science & Technology

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• Cryonics
• cryogenics
• death
• immortalism
• transhuman
• biostasis
• frozen
• life
• health

[RayDandy]

is there a length of time after death or degree of decomposition which makes revival impossible? there was a man exhumed to cryopreserve his head,after alcor was in legal dispute with his family,he was exhumed 15 months after his burial,his name was orville i believe. is it possible to revive him? or has his brain decomposed to a condition which makes repair and revival impossible?.i know this may need to be judged by individual circumstance,because of certain variables.

[DK0526]

@RayDandy Yes we just don't know for certain what it is but even before cryopreservation the degree of tissue break down is determined by a temp to time ratio. For instance 10 hrs in the desert may be a complete waste while a month in the artic might not be according to arrhenius equation. The person frozen after 15 month probably doesnt have a very good shot. Then why freeze him? 1. For legal reasons 2. Because that is what the person contracted for. 3 because we are not absolutely sure >>>

[DK0526]

>about the extent of damage. surely there will be some memory loss. Is it total or partial? We give stroke patients a shot. 4 To discourage greedy family members from attempting to profit by reversing a persons last wishes. In the end Alcor prevailed and the family didn't get the cash. That didn't mean Alcor gets to spend the money rather they continue to follow the persons last wishes no matter how futile or not. 5.Alcor simply had a moral and legal obligation to follow that persons last wishes

[DK0526]

@RayDandy for reference there is no amount of time in which an embryo frozen at liquid nitrogen temps has been found less viable. In essence you could freeze it for thousands of yrs implant it and it would be fine. At room temps a human doesnt do well as you know with out O2 the cooler it is the better and as I said this is driven by the Arrhenius equation that governs thermal decay. Germs & molecular activity still operates in a conventional freezer just slower. At LN2 temps molecules slow>

[DK0526]

slow> to the point where it takes 100's of millions of yrs for any decernable activity. Germs and chemical processes dont even operate at that level of cold. Actually heat is nothing more then molecular activity. so cold represents slow molecular activity down to absolute zero.

[DK0526]

@RichieKGB Yes I am as serious as a heart attack. I am also willing to back up cryonics claims with scientific fact and reasoning. Cryonics is perhaps the one way for people living today to see the future and to be given a second chance at life after todays medicine has given up on you. Like many obscure and hidden truths cryonics lays in wait for now only to some day be accepted and taken for granted as common sense good practice. cryonics is an abulence ride to the future.

[RayDandy]

thank you for explaining.

[DK0526]

>>> also look up Ralph Merkle here or else where on the net. Then theres Erik Drexler, Ray kurzweil. One of these guys actually has a suggested fields of study for getting into the Nanotechnology field. As for Cryonics just be willing to help out and volunteer time. The current organizations are set up as no profit to save people. All the money goes to perpetual storage, over head and research but there is limited research in cryonics. Thats where nanotech comes in which applies to much more.

[DK0526]

@cmonutube Well I dont see anyone making a ton of money in cryonics...its more humanitarian work but molecular nanotechnology, genetics, and micro robotics are sure to fuel the world and solve the cryonics revival problem. Thats where the money is and hard science too. Go to Alcors and the Cryonics Institute web sites you can see what the bio's of the scientific advisory boards are... pretty impressive and smart people in their field. phd's Chemistry, biochem, engineering, medical, physics,ect

[cmonutube]

@DK0526 cool man. I am in college right now majoring in chemistry. My goal is to get into the nanotechnology field or even the cryopreservation field. I'm curious as to what people working in this field majored in and what steps they took to get where they are today. would know anything about that?

[DK0526]

@cmonutube Of course I have a theory on that too. If Cryonics does work then by default we will have a very powerful advance technological civilization...probably saturated with molecular nanotechnology. And if that is the case then the spin off wealth will make everyone many thousands of times richer then even bill gates today...But that is not so surprising when you consider how much better off we are today then even kings and queeens of past. Technology makes the world a much better place!