Guiliani - September Criminal or 911 hero? - 3

PS I no longer support Ron Paul nor Alex Jones. They are also establishment and Ron Paul is a freemason. Look into it.

Guiliani's cult hero status went untarnished and unchallenged until he decided to decline an invitation to the International Association for Firefighters Forum, open to all Presidential candidates for Q & A. Mainstream news then picked up on the story and exposed the contention between the former Mayor and the real heroes, the New York Firefighters who lost so many of their friends and compatriots in the attacks of that day. All was not well in Oz and finally someone had alluded to the mask shadowing the truth - a great rift exists between Giuliani and the one group America assumes to be his staunchest allies.

When Giuliani declined their invitation, a letter was e-mailed to all 280,000 members of IAFF-- representing 85% of the nation's firefighters -- indicating that most of the association had not wanted to invite him anyways and then listed why. " The IAFF recognizes that Mayor Giuliani generally enjoys a favorable reputation as a result of his actions immediately after the tragedy of 9/11. Many people consider Rudy Giuliani "America's Mayor," and many of our members who don't yet know the real story, may also have a positive view of him. This letter is intended to make all of our members aware of the egregious acts Mayor Giuliani committed against our members, our fallen on 9/11, and our New York City union officers following that horrific day. Rest assured, our exclusion of Mayor Giuliani is not about any particular contractual or policy issue or disagreement. His actions post 9/11 rise to such an offensive and personal attack on our brother and sisterhood - and directly on our union - that the IAFF does not feel Rudy Giuliani deserves an audience of IAFF leaders and members at our own Presidential Forum. The disrespect that he exhibited to our 343 fallen FDNY brothers, their families and our New York City IAFF leadership in the wake of that tragic day has not been forgiven or forgotten.

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[mdog2700]

Structural support no matter the material.. oh mighty u-tube gatekeepermaster. i also designed and built machines, and much more. I knew somone with out engineer knowllage would say that.

[EndeavorFreedom]

The One Meridian Plaza Fire

One Meridian Plaza is a 38-floor skyscraper in Philadelphia that suffered a severe fire on February 23, 1991. The fire started on the 22nd floor and raged for 18 hours, gutting eight floors and causing an estimated $100 million in direct property loss.

Despite the severity and duration of the fire, as evidenced by the damage the building sustained, no part of the building collapsed.

[EndeavorFreedom]

The First Interstate Bank Fire

The First Interstate Bank Building is a 62-story skyscraper in Los Angeles that suffered the worst high-rise fire in the city's history. From the late evening of May 4, 1988 through the early morning of the next day, 64 fire companies battled the blaze, which lasted for 3 1/2 hours. No collapse.

[EndeavorFreedom]

Caracas Tower Fire

The tallest skyscraper in Caracas, Venezuela experienced a severe fire on October 17, 2004. The blaze began before midnight on the 34th floor, spread to more than 26 floors, and burned for more than 17 hours. Heat from the fires prevented firefighters from reaching the upper floors, and smoke injured 40 firefighters.

No collapse.

[EndeavorFreedom]

The Windsor Building fire

The most recent case of a severe high-rise fire is the one that destroyed the Windsor Building in Madrid, Spain on February 12, 2005. The Windsor fire was more severe than any of the other fires described on this page, and the incident has been widely publicized, with comparisons to the fires in the three World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11/01. No collapse.

[mdog2700]

As a furniture designer in younger days i learned structure support. Support must always be designed under any thing above. Thats why the old design blg fires dont collapes. The floors here were bolted to sides in so many places that it was a very strong structure as a whole. but if 2 or more floors gave way its doomed to its own weight. I have many yrs of experience in home construction and manufacturing proto-types design, and i see that that was huge error of design. HUGE !

[EndeavorFreedom]

Homes are not made of steel, wood burns, steel does not. Keep watching...

[mdog2700]

I ask the post-er of this site to encourage a think tank on the subject. I Thank the post-er of this site for allowing his veiwers to try to develop a way of saving future lives. Any idea can be developed by some one who does this R&D work. Ideas are for the taking, free !!

[mdog2700]

How bout a chamber tube thing like at the bank drive thru. For people on the outer part of each bldg corner. OR a slide device on each collum with a controlled desent. fire escapes can have a slide like in water parks. So more people can escape quickly. These guys that build these bldgs need to be able to have a plan if disaster strike. They must think about the safty of the people that have to work there. These are just ideas so please dont laff.

[mdog2700]

A parachute is way better than nothin. I know this the temps were high enough to melt aluminum but only hot enough to make steel red hot. And thermite is gone in a flash - no thermite fire-notta.

[therockroad]

Like The Titanic Nothing Is Unsinkable

Its Just The Law

[therockroad]

Yes Sir You Have Done Your Homework

It May Be Stated But I Dont Know What

Was The Temperture Of The WTC Fire

And Where The Temp's Close?

[therockroad]

This Is Not ment To Be Funny But

Closet's Full Of Parachute's Might

Have Saved Some Live Before They Came Down

[mdog2700]

Do you remember the fire situation in WTC-7.

[mdog2700]

I believe the most important to do now is design a way for people to survive the next disaster. I want all veiwers to put their energy and super brains to work on that. Including myself.

[mdog2700]

I have seen those disasters on film and ill bet none of those bldgs were of truss suport design. or if they were they had insulation and it was not blown off by a huge jet crash on a suicide mission. The blown off insulation was sopposed to prevent a heat stress situation in event of a fire.