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World series of Poker 2009 Episode 28 (E28) [Main Event part 21/26] WSOP 2009 is Presented by ESPN
World Series of Poker 2009 Episode 28 [Main Event 10K Buy-In Part 24/26 HDTV] day eight [Day8] Day 8 WSOP Main Event Final Table 7-10 November 2009 Rio Hotel & Casino Las Vegas Nevada WSOP 2009
Phil Ivey, Peter Eastgate, Chris Ferguson, Phil Hellmuth, Eric Buchman, Kevin Schaffel, Joseph Cada, Antoine Saout, James Akenhead, Steven Begleiter, Jeff Shulman
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i would of just call with those kk cause he still had 4 player to act after him and for sure one of them would of re raise it and could of got pay off bigger o well.
hmmm im not sure about that if he thinks hes up agains AK then hes got an edge so it happened earlier with Qs against AK so he could have thought he had the odds
HE IS NOT SUPPOSE TO KNOW WHAT THEY FOLDED. But it 3 players are folding those hands, it means that Begleiter was extremely tight, and it makes Tavelli's decision even worst.
Well, Leolauzon, basically I agree with you, but still, I guess if you switch any one of the 3 players who folded big hands with Tavelli in the same spot, I guess every one of them would have called with his hand after the reraise. I guess that psychologically they didn't want to get involved in this pot after begs' reraise without any money invested.
I don't mind the call preflop. He was getting 2.5:1, but he had interesting implied odds. You're only going to flop a set 12% of the time, so even then it was close. In position would be different, because there's a good chance that the other guy doesn't bet AK or makes a weak bet. Also, Tavelli raised UTG and Begleiter reraised with 7 players still behind. A lot more powerful than from the BB. How can he not have it ?
Preflop is alright, but the play on the flop is atrocious.
No doubt that after the flop he didn't played it well. I wouldn't say horrible, only perhaps considering the stakes and the risk of not getting to the final table. I guess that most players when calling a reraise with pocket 9s know they might be committed if low cards come on the flop. I think Tavelli knew he was beat but he just couldn't let it go. I wouldn't say it's horrible, rather pretty standard bad play. by the way, same goes for Kopp later on.
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Cada donked Schulman 33 vs JJ, Cada spiked a 3 on flop. Schulman would have been up to 30 million. Shulman finished 5th!
Players eliminated so far:
5th. Jeff Schulman
6th. Steven Beigletter
7th. Phil Ivey
8th. Kevin Schaffel
9th. James Akenhead
RAISE RE-RAISE AND ALL IN .
it happened earlier with Qs against AK so he could have thought he had the odds
You can't even understand such a simple point.
HE IS NOT SUPPOSE TO KNOW WHAT THEY FOLDED. But it 3 players are folding those hands, it means that Begleiter was extremely tight, and it makes Tavelli's decision even worst.
My god... Not that complicated.
but still, I guess if you switch any one of the 3 players who folded big hands with Tavelli in the same spot, I guess every one of them would have called with his hand after the reraise. I guess that psychologically they didn't want to get involved in this pot after begs' reraise without any money invested.
In position would be different, because there's a good chance that the other guy doesn't bet AK or makes a weak bet.
Also, Tavelli raised UTG and Begleiter reraised with 7 players still behind. A lot more powerful than from the BB. How can he not have it ?
Preflop is alright, but the play on the flop is atrocious.
I wouldn't say horrible, only perhaps considering the stakes and the risk of not getting to the final table.
I guess that most players when calling a reraise with pocket 9s know they might be committed if low cards come on the flop. I think Tavelli knew he was beat but he just couldn't let it go. I wouldn't say it's horrible, rather pretty standard bad play. by the way, same goes for Kopp later on.