1985 Southern 500, Earnhardt vs Elliott

Bill Elliott and Dale Earnhardt race for the lead early in the race

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• Darlington

[LT1HILLINGHOE]

Plates were put on to speed up the fords. GM won more on the superspeedways than Ford ever did. Even when flash in the pan Elliott came along GM won more before the strictor plates than Ford did. Take away 1985 and people would be saying Bill who? LOL Me thinks DW won the cup in 1985 so DW is the king of 1985 anyhow in a Junior Johnson Chevy.

[chad2909]

Actually without 1985 Bill would have 30+ wins and the 1988 cup championship. I don't believe that would qualify him as "Bill who?" And the 16 or so most popular driver awards... I think it's kinda funny to call someone who has been racing for 30 years a flash in the pan... lol

[aqualung6000]

totally agree Elliott was a terrific driver, the reason GM wins more is the fact that they supply half the nascar field

[AMIEVIL86]

@Bag0fRats Because ford didn't ask for any "bailout" money they were allowed to take the $5.9 billion from the D.O.E. ATVM GOVERNMENT program. This gets overlooked because it wasn't from "THE BAILOUT". - Forbs.com. Keep changing the subject if you want but CHEVROLET STILL HAS MORE NASCAR RACE WINS & DRIVER/MANUFACTURER CHAMIONSHIPS THEN FORD.

[AMIEVIL86]

@Bag0fRats In June 2009, ford took $5.9 billion from taxpayers as part of the Department of Energy's Advanced Technologies Vehicle Manufacturing program. It was a program that allocated $7.5 billion to support $25 billion in loans to give as incentives to create geen jobs. Congress authorized the program in Sept. 2008. However because the recession hit at the same time the govt. would not allow GM or Chrysler any of the money because they were asking for "the bailout".

[Bag0fRats]

@AMIEVIL86 Ford was smart enough to not make a deal with the devil and not phuck the taxpayers over. Now GM has the Obama Volt now.

[AMIEVIL86]

@Bag0fRats Since you enabled contact block, i'll respond to you in public. Ford had a chance to take a "big fat government check" but decided not to. They had a chance, so don't get upset because they didn't. Pre-bailout or post-bailout, it still doesn't change the fact that Chevrolet has won more NASCAR races and championships then ford.

[Bag0fRats]

@AMIEVIL86 give Ford a big fat government check and see how well they do.

[AMIEVIL86]

@blitz811 Let me read my post again. lemme see oh thats right I DIDNT DENY IT. Yeah GM took a bailout. They did go bankrupt. But again most the race wins and driver/ manufacturer championships that Chevrolet has won happened before they went bankrupt. I guess if ford cant even beat a bankrupt company then i guess that says more about them then I could ever say. Again my arguement was about NASCAR Race Wins and Championships. Chevrolet has more of both PERIOD!

[AMIEVIL86]

@DTOMUSA74 As for all the "damn GM cars" in the field, its a matter of choice. Why the hell would, as a team owner would you NOT choose the make that gives you the best chance of winning? You choose the make that WINS THE MOST RACES! @bigmrclean must now understand this as i havent heard a damn thing out of him either. RACE WINS & CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!

[AMIEVIL86]

@DTOMUSA74 Thats NASCAR's idea to make the engines spec engines. Chevrolet can't help that. But i guess they can be forced to use a ford engine design but use Chevrolet heads and parts and still outrun a ford. If only the 351C had the longevity of the Chevrolet's small block, which is still being used with its basic design since 1955.

[blitz811]

@AMIEVIL86 . bottom line ... GM = BANKRUPT. stop living in denial. stop defending a failed company. GOV'T MOTORS.

[DTOMUSA74]

@LT1HILLINGHOE Ever notice how many damn GM cars there are on the track? It's no wonder they won so much when most of the field is a GM product.