Gravitec testing at NASA LEEIF of asymmetric capacitor in vacuum 4

This is video footage of Gravitec Inc, vacuum tests of asymmetrical capacitors at NASA's NSSTC LEEIF facility in Huntsville Alabama. These tests were done in summer 2003 at pressures of at least one times ten to the negative six Torr.

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[SlimAgnus]

It would have been nice with an explanation as to what the video shows. I'm guessing most people don't have a clue what is being shown here.

[hec031]

@SlimAgnus Good point, will work on a new version of the video that will address your points. Thanks for the constructive criticism.

[user25119498503]

For this to be definitive, factors obfuscating any real result must be eliminated. In particular, ionization of the surface material on the device could stimulate ejection of the looser particles in miniscule quantities (providing thrust). Also, the frequency of light used to observe the experiment should be tuned so as to prevent the manifestation of a contaminating photoelectric effect allowing the capacitors to push off of escaping electrons.

[hec031]

I agree that conventional forces must be eliminated, but the two that you mentioned could not have produced the force observed since it was ~3mN of thrust. The mass ejection needed to support that thrust would have changed the post test mass of the object, which was unchanged after testing.

In our most recent experiments in vacuum these force effects simply can't account for the observed force. Still they are legitimate concerns and will be addressed in our up coming publication. Thanks.

[ixamraxi]

You realize this is an ion motor that isn't spinning right....

[hec031]

Pressure and current use do not support that claim, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[Orionblade2003]

@ixamraxi: it's on a torsion balance...

[aether222]

I believe that this forrn of the effect is not as given to vacuum operation as are other T.T Brown electrogravitic capacitor forms, I believe the ionization of the air changes the field shape around the anode that is missing in this form, also I suspect that a dietictric might be helpful along with pulsing, also IMO a plasma tube/bulb energized by TC facing an aluminum plate would create a more suitable thrust, not based on brown tho but other experimenters, see BSRF video and other examples.

[ixamraxi]

Oh, and would you be so kind as to carefully point out which display shows pressure and current?

In the upper right you can see numbers, and you must make the assumption that the left is current and the right is kilovolts, there is no legible or clear labeling. You are the one making assumptions.

The upper left video clearly shows it not moving despite the voltage and current readings in the upper right.

Where is the opinion?

[littlebobfirst]

Can I ask why the video of the asymmetrical capacitor in the vacuum has so much fuzz/noise?