The Emerging Church is Coming !!! Part 1

Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1frpl2Md1o0

by David W Cloud

This message is part of a nine part series of messages available on DVD at:
http://www.wayoflife.org/emergingchurchresources/index.html

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• emerging
• emergent
• church
• luke
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• apostacy

[Ahavah8Ahavah]

Yes! I'm hearing all the names Brian Mclearan, Willow Creek, Saddleback...yep yep yep

Oh (sigh) I have stories. This emerging movement is scary to me...yuck. Problem is...these people are just SO nice, so welcoming, so "cool"...and they ARE targeting the younger generations.

[jinkyfc]

Amen

this does seem aimed at the young Christians.

worrying times :(

[joeXcel]

Good, powerful message. No place here for itching ears. Thank you for sharing.

5/5 & Fav'd

~Joseph~

[jinkyfc]

No worries i am glad it blessed you. David Cloud is a great defender of the faith

[kjvonly01]

Mr. David Cloud is a fervent defender of the book, and of the faith.

Thanks for passing this on brother Stephen.

[jinkyfc]

Amen bro

he has done is homework on "textual criticism" and is very sound doctrinally

[evewale]

wish more preachers would spread this message

[awaitthegroom]

@stevelovesgod The anti-christ is revealed but the tribulation wont begin until the rapture occurs which may be the catalyst that springboards him into full office.

[awaitthegroom]

@stevelovesgod I dont listen to Perry Stone although I am aware of him. Jesus used very feast, story and pattern of the jewish people more in depth than we Gentiles will ever really know- because we have not been raised with this appreciation but there are many Christians who do appreciate this.Jesus is a Jew and is a Jew in Heaven as well as being divine- that it the mystery- I am the last person to advocate the teachings of man over Scripture!

[daveme7]

@awaitthegroom And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ

[daveme7]

@awaitthegroom Finally(so you understandI am there with you when people do not understand becauseof culture) they do not pick stones up to kill Christ because he was a Son of God-there was never a son of God but always The Son of God. Besides Lucifer challanging him on this in the temptation I would leave this as Christ ios God the son of God and man showing the hypostatic union of Christ. Also-Christ is not a name but an office.

[daveme7]

I love trying to understand from a jewish, Roman, and Greek culture(just so happens King of the Jews inscribed in those languages) I am grieved when I see the dispensationalist teach between the 2 first verses of Genesis saw two creations and some see two sets of people created not understanding with Jewish eyes that after verse one-it is a more in depth parallel structure from verse one and also the same with Adam and Eve created and the only ones again-one statement given details.

[daveme7]

In Hebrews 10 where it speaks of trampeling the blood of Christ with feet-sometimes the image of when the Saddam statue was pulled down and all the kids hit it with their sandals or the very fact that an Iraqi threw both his shoes at our president?On the other hand when I say I love you with all my heart also has different understandings like when the bible speaks of bowels of mercies or how the bowles of the saints shows mercy while the seed of humanity is in the stomach-Nips commited Herikeri

[awaitthegroom]

@daveme7 The Holy Spirit helps us if we have ears to hear- to see the mysteries and paradox of Jesus teaching. e.g. Jesus taught using metz-metz- where a Rabbi answers a question with a question - most western people dont appreciate that or that the parables were existing Jewish stories- Jesus did not invent them, the tassel or tzit-tziot of authority the woman touched- she didnt just grab His gown anywhere- you see the difference these details make to our understanding?

[awaitthegroom]

@daveme7 I accuse no-one. To be THE Son of God is very different to being A son of God. The context of phrase will denote the authority. As also in THE Son of Man and being of mankind. The reason deception has taken hold so strongly is that churches do not teach sound Bible teaching- as you have asked this question and others on YT- they do not have the basics of doctrine but believe any manner of interpretation. Listeners of the Lord came with a Jewish background of teaching which we have not.

[daveme7]

Saying this, there are quite a few reasons why they hate fundamentalists and no different than those in the past as they are exactly against the beliefs -the five fundamentals of the faith but kind of coy about it. I do believe they are a cult as they have a different bible, a different salvation, a different Jesus and perhaps those who know of cults-see how friendly they are to give so much love to the point that slithers with their damnable heresies. I am a nobody but have time for more study