James Baldwin vs. William F. Buckley (Part 5)

Year: 1965

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[chefjefff]

What's the difference between William F. Buckley and The HINDENBURG?

One is a flaming, Nazi Gas-Bag and the other is a blimp.

[mmawilldesha]

@legalman1980 Also It takes time to develop a culture and blacks have been here for 100s of years and have been full citizens for a little over 40 years. They weren't allowed to keep their original cultures so they had to make their own. Slavery and jim crow had an enormous influence on black urban culture. From the way they speak (slang), which was developed during slavery to speak around the slave masters, to music like Jazz and Blues which later would give birth to R&B and Hip Hop.

[AmericansforFreeIran]

Talk about bias. Buckley- haters are just venom-spitters. No real, proper debate, just hate.

WFB was a Great American.

[iiwatcher]

My god what a complete piece of shit pseudo-intellectual wind-bag Buckley was. Good riddance.

[chefjefff]

Mr Buckley's pointing out Mr Baldwin's ' affected English Accent' is a meaningless Ad Hominen and laughably ironic. I'm just grateful that Mr Buckley restrained himself at this event as he is well known for jumping from his chair and threating physical violence if he doesnt particularly happen to like what his opponent might be saying at the time. Billy Buckley is a man having a first-rate vocabulary and a second-rate intellect, incapable of entertaining two serious thoughts in a row

[chefjefff]

@otacon451 Goodwins Law does not apply when you are speaking about a bona-fide social fascist

[otacon451]

@chefjefff except that Buckley argues for nothing resembling the platform of national socialism. Also, Godwins Law in the top comment!



[SumetraSound]

@jackxbf1 To take it a step further-->When Buckley's grandparents worked.... as he mentioned... he fails to acknowledge that they got paid for their labor. In the 1960s this part of the conversation can't be overlooked... Again, far from "brain"... Unfortunately you can't fix a "problem" that you when you ignore of its complexities.

[SumetraSound]

@jackxbf1 It seems you weren't listening to the debate as closely as it demands. Baldwin was making a "macro" statement to paint the picture of how the Negro has been used to create the illusion of the "American Dream" and how that affects American culture... and instead of speaking to the "macro or bigger" picture, Buckley only attacks Baldwin without truly getting to the meat of the debate. History is always a part of present day. Buckley ignoring that is far from "brain"...

[jackxbf1]

Buckley has the brain, Baldwin is just full of hate, it seems that buckley is talking about fixing the problems of the time and Baldwin just wants to complain how powerless he is to fix it, other than to react violently to these problems.

[chefjefff]

@gdbalck too bad he didn't follow that rule. He would take twenty minutes to ask a waitress fot a cup of coffee.