Karl Jenkins The Armed man - Benedictus

Coro de São Tarcisio Igreja da Trindade - Porto - Portugal
Jairo Grossi - Vicente Chuaqui
2008

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[booboo99289]

I thought this was beautifully done, but much too fast and too strict. This piece is meant to be very free and legato but I found this a little too strict in it's timing, however the voices blended very well together. Bel canto!

[jbncer]

There are those who don't like Karl's music and that is their musical prerogative- some singers have similar views about John Rutter - a bit like liking or not liking Marmite! I was privileged, with around 300 Brits to sing the whole of the Armed Man at a 9/11 memorial concert in New York with Karl conducting in front of 2,700 at the Lincoln Centre's Avery Fisher Hall. In that emotional context, its power and message was there for all to see and fully deserved its standing ovation.

[Gerbilsingsmezzo]

Just started rehearsing this with my choir. I find it lacking in imagination and very predictable. I feel I could sing a few bars using the score, then make up the next few bars myself and I wouldn't be far out. His writing reminds me of my music teacher at school who used to write loads of cheesy " ban the bomb" type songs. I'm not saying it doesn't have it's stirring moments, but the subject matter is so powerful and emotive it needs a score which translates that. For me, this piece doesn't .

[alipitogen]

@alipitogen before I ever seek to know about a composer's intentions I must hear something in the music that induces that wish in me. I do not in this case. I'll finish by once again thanking you and declaring that I have a certain belief that aesthetics suffers in this current PC climate , resembling the race in Alice In Wonderland which goes around in a circle with no finish line, and everyone gets a prize. So , I think it is healthier for opinions to be strong for art to grow even stronger.

[alipitogen]

@alipitogen released, with the work of John Williams being expected to burden the enormous themes therein musically and do them empathetic justice. For me and for most, he succeeded in abundance. I am a Bach fanatic, I also love Gombert and Beethoven and many others for their music.I hear nothing in Jenkins output that reminds me of my favourite music. There is almost no harmonic tension , no striking melody, I'm just sorry to repeat that I find the whole effect inane. I also must reply that....

[alipitogen]

@PhillipPark90 Thank you. I have been a bit too vociferous about this but I got a few abusive replies which got me on my heels. In 1983 the pop musicians of Britain, led by my countryman, Geldoff, got together for the Band Aid single and the video showed images of starvation.The music was totally inadequate to contain (express is not the right word) the subject but the sincerity behind what they wanted to do, and the subsequent momentum, rendered that superfluous. In 1992 Shindler's List was...

[lisjovia1]

lovely



[alipitogen]

I would really appreciate it if someone who disagrees with my aversion to this music would respond to me cogently and articulately, without calling me "plonker", "fuckwit", or casting oblique aspersions upon my Irish forebears. I don't like this man's music , and the quality of response , so far, from his fans probably just about reflects its aesthetic worth, as perceived by me.

[alipitogen]

@MrBryns Why don't you try and be more polite to people on Youtube? I do not know what a "fuckwit" is. Perhaps you are able to explain the term . This music , to me, is nonsense and it's popularity angers me. I did not , however, insult anyone or use abusive language in my comment and my advice to you is that you shouldn't either.You're letting yourself down and none of it reflects on me -just on you. I do write choral music, by the way, and the less it sounds like this the better, I would say.

[MrBryns]

@alipitogen Why DON't YOU TRY AND MAKE A SATB Masterpiece fuckwit, you might then understand how hard it is. ive sung this piece its 32 pages long why don't you write one thats 50 pages long? then you can appreciate this music