Provided by permission from the Venus Project. This film even with it's primitive special effects has the best presentation for the Venus Project I have ever seen on film. The dialogue is great.
@1519kyle Sustainability is evil. My ancestors has the misfortune of living "sustainably." It was a horror; it's better to die than go back to that. Anyway, Peak oil (as presented by most greens) is a lie; and we have nuclear and other non-renewable options going out for several millenia. Never support sustainable living unless you want others to live in poverty.
@1519kyle The freedom to have money is not a thing; it's a power. It's the power to buy what I want rather than to take what someone wants to shove up my backside :-) Since money is a medium of exchange, it doesn't need to be backed by natural resources. So long as I have the legal right to use money to get access to the resources I need, money is valuable to me. If you think money is worthless, give me all of yours :-)
@Mumiaw18 This is just a circular argument. The freedom to have money is a nothing thing. It doesn't represent anything, it's not backed by anything. A gold standard just backs money to gold, not energy or resources. Things will continue to get worse, because there is no basis or structure for sustainability, social or Envtl. As things get worse, people will do whatever they need to, including taking things. Man lives by mans law, instead of Natural Law.
I know its Youtube and people like flamming, but it really is just sad to see that the comments are so narrow-minded.
It is a relativly old documentary (1998) however I still love watching it and are fascinated by the ideas. Im just disappointed that there seem to be many people who simply cant analyse a new idea from an objective point of view.
@clearly LOL. The only thing to do would be to buy a tee-shirt saying "Venus Project = I'm screwed." However, you won't have any money, so you won't be able to buy anything; you'll have to get what the government produces, and the government won't produce tee-shirts like that!
@clearly What if it doesn't work out? What if the VP drives you into endless poverty, and you decide you want to go back--back to having money, property and privacy? But you must wait for gov't handouts for every resource, and the computer chip in you monitors every action you take. What do you do then--with no property, no guns and no privacy?
@clearly You might have the freedom to live without money, but other people have the freedom to have both money and other personal property. Your freedom to live without money should not eliminate others' freedom to live with money (and other personal property--whether needed or not). The Venus Project opposes people's freedom to have money, and that's why some people oppose the VP.
@1519kyle Sustainability is evil. My ancestors has the misfortune of living "sustainably." It was a horror; it's better to die than go back to that. Anyway, Peak oil (as presented by most greens) is a lie; and we have nuclear and other non-renewable options going out for several millenia. Never support sustainable living unless you want others to live in poverty.
Mumiaw18 1 week ago
@1519kyle The freedom to have money is not a thing; it's a power. It's the power to buy what I want rather than to take what someone wants to shove up my backside :-) Since money is a medium of exchange, it doesn't need to be backed by natural resources. So long as I have the legal right to use money to get access to the resources I need, money is valuable to me. If you think money is worthless, give me all of yours :-)
Mumiaw18 1 week ago
@Mumiaw18 This is just a circular argument. The freedom to have money is a nothing thing. It doesn't represent anything, it's not backed by anything. A gold standard just backs money to gold, not energy or resources. Things will continue to get worse, because there is no basis or structure for sustainability, social or Envtl. As things get worse, people will do whatever they need to, including taking things. Man lives by mans law, instead of Natural Law.
1519kyle 2 weeks ago
@Schlitzerix Exactly, the ability seem to rare now days. :(
muffinspuffinsEE 1 month ago
I know its Youtube and people like flamming, but it really is just sad to see that the comments are so narrow-minded.
It is a relativly old documentary (1998) however I still love watching it and are fascinated by the ideas. Im just disappointed that there seem to be many people who simply cant analyse a new idea from an objective point of view.
Schlitzerix 1 month ago 2
@TheBambooooooooo You pretty much explained why you are naive. This movement is going nowhere and you perfectly summarized why.
FitnessByMatt 1 month ago
Welcome to Ukraine!
arhangel00010001 1 month ago
@clearly LOL. The only thing to do would be to buy a tee-shirt saying "Venus Project = I'm screwed." However, you won't have any money, so you won't be able to buy anything; you'll have to get what the government produces, and the government won't produce tee-shirts like that!
Mumiaw18 2 months ago
@clearly What if it doesn't work out? What if the VP drives you into endless poverty, and you decide you want to go back--back to having money, property and privacy? But you must wait for gov't handouts for every resource, and the computer chip in you monitors every action you take. What do you do then--with no property, no guns and no privacy?
Mumiaw18 2 months ago
@clearly You might have the freedom to live without money, but other people have the freedom to have both money and other personal property. Your freedom to live without money should not eliminate others' freedom to live with money (and other personal property--whether needed or not). The Venus Project opposes people's freedom to have money, and that's why some people oppose the VP.
Mumiaw18 2 months ago