Grand Ayatollah:System based on force illegitimate

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Part 2 of Nader Hashemi on Iranian Grand Ayatollah Montazeri's fatwa

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[yoldash2]

Many of the demonstrators are now anti islam but thats the only way they can express their dissidence. as an atheist

i would chant the same slogans if i were

inside iran!

[sohrab2012]

ای کاش با ما میماندی تا با هم جشن آزادی را بگیریم. بدرود ای پدر سبز ملت ایران

[ass711]

i did read those books, but their evidences were a little too weak. america knew the power of islam was very strong and could move the 900 million people (back in 79) they knew it because they had experienced it from the power of hte caliphate in pre-1923. any revolution by religious leaders could have been catatrosphic for them. thats why they supported secularist groups like mossadegh's old tudeh party (with leader shapour baktihar) and generals of the monarchist army, financing them etc.

[RevoltAgainstLies]

That's not the case. The West had tired of the Shah and opted to replace him with Khomeini, but hadn't done enough due diligence with the cleric, and it blew up in their faces. Read "Hostage to Khomeini" by Robert Dreyfuss, "A Century of War" by F. William Engdahl, and the Shah's own memoirs, "Answer to History" and you'll see the evidence.

[TheWhiteWire]

Isn't it Ayat Allah or verse of Allah I think it means an evidence that God exists

[WeAreWakingUp]

It means 'If God wills it' right? So Calling God by his Arabic name constitutes thumbing a comment down? Don't be ignorant people

[ass711]

1979 wasn't foreign-backed or influenced (unless you are talking about anti-americanism and hostage crisis) that was a revolution by the people for islam, just like the protests by the iranians today in 2009 is by the people for democracy and reform.

[asperin]

Any State of today is based on force. Without force, tons of people would secede and separate because their ideologies don't match.

That is what naturally would happen and what would make people happy, in Iran, US, ect.

[RevoltAgainstLies]

To be even more blunt, the current situation in Iran is truly "revolutionary" (meaning eventual regime change) only to the extent that foreign powers have viable intelligence on the ground that can bring it about. The past 3 regime changes in Iran (1941, 1953, 1979) were ALL courtesy of foreign interventions (yes, including the Shah's).

[peymaania]

I love Ron Paul, I thought he was especially good in the latest Sasha Cohen Flick!