Battle of Britain Movie Part 8

Battle of Britain

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• 1969

[afretired04]

Ladies and gentlemen, we interrupt this war to bring you pointless kissing. All action shall now come to a screeching halt.

[tumak1966]

God bless the RAF veterans that defeated the nazis during World war 2.

[ectomy1235]

@afretired04 ha! thats a good one!

[notsureyou]

@AYchip

From a documentary I saw, it did help the British.

The mozzies were very effectively employed, but I wonder how they would have gone if they had done the role of the b17's etc

[AYchip]

@notsureyou The Oslo Report? That helped with many things, but Knickebein was not one of them, if memory serves.

Certainly the Mossies didn't use bomber-stream tactics, because that wasn't appropriate - the reasons for bombers to fly in a single stream don't apply when you're relying on speed and evasion in an unarmed bomber.

[notsureyou]

@AYchip

the later Mozzie (Mk XVI) came out in 1944, against the latest 190 A series yes it was, against the D series it wasnt, against the 109 later G series it was at times with some of the models faster over 7000m than some, and fastre over 8000m than the others, but against the K4 (1944) it was slower at all altitudes. The G6 you mentioned is 1943

[notsureyou]

@AYchip

And the fact the the British recieved a jolly big file from an unknown german scientist outlining ALL of their secret weapons :)

I remeber hearing years ago that the Mozzies went in small groups, but I havnt been able to find anything online that confirms or corrects this.

[AYchip]

@notsureyou The exact count of planes in each raid is not something I could find data for, but I recall reading somewhere a figure of 400. In any case, 3000/month implies an average of 100/night.

By Lorenz I assume you are referring to the German Lorenz-based radionavigation systems Knickebein, X-Gerät and Y-Gerät. These were successfully combated by the Allies due to weaknesses that OBOE did not have. Read R.V. Jones' "Most Secret War" for details.

[AYchip]

@notsureyou The fast bomber concept doesn't require you to be faster at any particular altitude, just that there must be /some/ altitude at which you're faster than the fighters - and many early Mosquito raids were done 'on the deck'. Also, the later models (I'm assuming you mean those with the two-stage Merlin) /were/ faster at altitude than the fighters (according to Wiki data on B.XVI, Bf109G-6 and Fw190A-8).

[notsureyou]

@AYchip

It def performed the intruder role VERY WELL, but it wasnt until the later model with the higher altittude performance came out that it faster at alt against SOME german fighters.

how many planes in each raid?

have you heard of Lorenz?

[AYchip]

@notsureyou I'm quite aware that the Mossie wasn't appropriate to escort. It could however perform the Intruder rôle, and did so with distinction. And the main reason that the Mosquito was hard to catch was that it was faster than the fighters (the extra altitude helped, true). The 'numbers' weren't that small, either - late in the war the LNSF attained 3000 sorties per month.

Of course, night bombing beats day once you have radionavigation - another thing the USAAF got wrong!

[notsureyou]

I meant bombers in DAY LIGHT raids