Ramon Vinay live in 1947 - "Dio mi potevi scagliar" from Verdi's "Otello" (Toscanini)
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This is an Otello I would have loved to hear onstage as well. Magnificent.
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1'51 - OMG!!!
there's still no one else who still sounds quite like him,and this role was HIS
if someone put Jon Vickers in therapy(for scaring the hell out of us,wonderfully) he might come close to sounding like this but still
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I did hear it live.I was present for the first two acts. Wow & wow.
Anthony Paterno
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SUBLIME!!!!
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I think this is one of the best Otello's ever...he was master class singer
BRAVO!!
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Tuve la dicha de conocer y visitar a DON RAMON VINAY en su sitio de descanso aca en guadalajara en sus dos ultimos anos de vida y conservo gratos recuerdos de su presencia y recortes de su fallecimiento y homenaje postumo y entierro en CHILLAN a donde espero un dia acudir a visitar su tumba y la del gran pianista CLAUDIO ARRAU VIVA CHILE Y VIVA MEXICO Y FRANCIA Y TODO EL MUNDO DEL ARTE UN ABRAZO
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Vinay was a great artist. Absolutely no doubt about that. And he's in very good form here. I forget the name of the critic who called Vinay's voice at its best "Rembrandtian." Not sure that I could explain this, but even so, I agree:)
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@raigekimaru I agree with you according to Vinay, Giacomini, but hmmm, Bergonzi started his career as a baritone, so I don't see him as a "pure" tenor, and I don't believe Kaufmann will grow into this dramaric repertoire, but we will see...
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@Cantormatis While he began with lighter repertoire, as was right for him at that time, he has moved into the heavier roles and is now singing in the dramatic Fach. While I can understand that not all who move into this Fach belong there, from what I have heard, Kaufmann does. That said, I agree that Vinay was indeed one of the kings of dramatic tenors...
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@philipvanlidth Kaufman's voice is dark but he is not a dramatic tenor. THIS is a dramatic tenor.
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baritones have a chance too. I am a baritone and my teacher says I could possibly be a heldentenor when i get older. in fact, it is actually more common for dramatic tenors to start out as baritones, especially given the male voice gradually gets higher with age starting at around college (although this is rather counter intuitive)
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@raigekimaru Dark tenors exist but are not allowed to evolve. Because when you are young you are forced to sing light stuff, singing heavy stuff even if you are a heavy voice is... bad for you. Hence only light tenors get real chances, because their rep is acceptable at a young age.
Sonically this is the best I've heard (I have the RCA Guild and Naxos versions), but this is far superior.
1956EMF 2 years ago 3
Actually this is the RCA CD release.
VinylToVideo 2 years ago
Oh my God! Why my CD does not sounds like this one???
Thanks
1956EMF 2 years ago
No idea; is there more than one RCA release? I've heard the Guild release is supposed to be the best.
VinylToVideo 2 years ago