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@STEVEFINNERTY Wish that were true (if I understand you correctly), but I would argue that a lot more people listen to the media and rock critics than you think.
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@Beck19781 since when have rock critics and the media been relevant, did I miss something ?.they/it was'nt relevant throughout his life/career, unless you include his totall mistrust of it/them/us.
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@STEVEFINNERTY Well, Frank is dead and buried in the ground. He can't do anything else about this. I'm not concerned about his post-mortem forgiveness. I'm concerned with how people (and, specifically, rock critics and the media) represent his legacy.
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@MrShayneOneill I agree. See my elaboration above.
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@BrothaVoodoo So isn't it great that Zappa could not only play both but did so creatively?
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@Beck19781 "not reference" should read "not reverence".
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In many respects, the confusions resulting from the late 1960s further contribute to the confusion of this argument. But take a look at Zappa prior to the mid-60s: what did he play on the Steve Allen show? He played a composition for bicycle, orchestra, and electronic tape. What (at least among covers) did the Beatles play prior to Sullivan? Chuck Berry, Little Richard, etc. I love both musicians. But Zappa always thought of himself as a composer, and that says something.
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Frank was as accepting of the music of Guitar Slim as he was the music of Stravinsky, but he understood both: that's a difference that has to be acknowledged. Its not a value judgment; I am not, specifically, arguing that Zappa is a BETTER player or musician than Lennon because of this. But I think that he understood music differently, and what so many musicians and people in the press never take into account is the fact that this guy knew EXACTLY what he was doing.
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But as to the outstanding influences on most of his rock contemporaries, Zappa barely acknowledges them (if at all). Unlike McCartney (the below-listed post should have read "McCartney" btw) or Lennon, Zappa's only reaction to Elvis (for example) was one of sympathy, not reference. One of the greatest aspects of this man's aesthetic legacy was that he refused to be artistically segregated. We can see him as an outgrowth of a time when the lines between "high" and "low" culture begin to blur.
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I have received an unexpected deluge of replies to a comment I made over a year ago, so let me clarify my thoughts once again. By stating the above, I was simply trying to underscore Zappa's musical roots. Certainly, these roots also include blues and doo-wop, and to ignore those influences in Zappa's style is a disservice to his legacy. However, Zappa had very little interest in his contemporaries. He was more interested in hanging out with Slomisky than he was hanging out with McCarthy.
4:52-5:34 The musical roots of this style of composition are classical, not rock. They have more in common, if anything, with Igor Stravkinsky than Chuck Berry. So, it bothers me to this day when people refer to Zappa as a rock musician. He wasn't. He was a classical composer capable of writing for many styles of music.
Beck19781 1 year ago 9
Get on your feet and do the Funky Alfonso
( It needed to be said ).
stikcler 2 months ago 2