Firedance: Kathak/Flamenco collaboration

Live performance of the Kathak/Flamenco collaboration 'Firedance' by Joanna de Souza & Esmeralda Enrique.
Music: Ritesh Das/Nicholas Hernandez
Tablas, Percussion: Ritesh Das & The Toronto Tabla Ensemble
Guitar: Nicholas Hernandez
Voices: Paco Fonta, Maryem Hassan-Toller
Sarangi: Pt. Ramesh Misra
Bass: Ian de Souza

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• Esmeralda
• Enrique
• Kathak
• Flamenco
• Ritesh
• Das
• Toronto
• Tabla
• Ensemble
• Dance

[happybuddha33]

This doesn't surprise me at all. The first time I saw kathak I was put in the mind of Flamenco...then again, I'd already known that the gypsies came from India, so I guess I had a heads up. lol....

[redfenderjazz]

Doesnt have roots in India? Really??? Have you ever seen Roma? or heard the language? The Roma language sounds a lot closer to it's Sanskrit root than it does to Spanish or Arabic/Hebrew and the ones I know and have seen look an awful lot more Indian than people from Extremadura and Murcia. Cuban influence in Flamenco weren't the Spanish Roma doing this kind of dance/music before there was any dance/music that was recognizably Cuban or 'Latin'.

[mmedefarge]

@polychronio Eh? I never said that.  I said that flamenco had more in common with the N. INDIAN Kathak dance (from the N. INDIAN Gypsies who migrated to Spain) than it has with Arabic dance.

[polychronio]

@mmedefarge flamenco is from latin people not north africans....north africans were latin before also....stop claiming latin as yours arabs.... that's bull shit....

[sharjoshi]

This doesn't surprise me either. First time I saw flamenco , I thought of kathak.



[musicislife383]

nice

[ZoraidaAllat]

@mmedefarge You say most Mid-Eastern and N. African folk dances are a variant of belly dancing--that is total BS! Houara, for one, is an indigenous dance found in Morocco that is heavy on complex/fast footwork, jumps, turns, claps/hand work and attitude that is very similar to Flamenco. The Moors (Muslim MOROCCANS/Berbers/Arabs/Africa­ns/etc.) ruled Spain for 700+ years before the arrival of the Gypsies. Gypsies are the latest contributors to what we know as Flamenco+why we associate it with them

[ZoraidaAllat]

@mmedefarge Actually, I am going to compile a list of good books and articles on the subject. Funny, that you don't bother to present any proof for your claim. Something doesn't have to "look like" something else to be related--how does that prove your point in any way? The bottom line is that the Europeans, Sephardic Jews, and Moors living in Spain fused styles to create the origins of Flamenco before the Gypsies arrived in Spain. The Gypsies added their own flavor later on.

[mmedefarge]

@ZoraidaAllat  Still waiting for the "several history books" worth of proof. "Rocket science", indeed. Meh.

[mmedefarge]

@ZoraidaAllat Yes, I've seen European folk dancing, middle-eastern & eastern European Jewish folk dancing, N. African & Middle Eastern dancing (most of which is a variant of belly dancing) & none of them look like flamenco. Zambra Mora is a fusion of flamenco & N. African dance which is why it is so named. You still offer no proof of your claims just a lot of exclamations combined with insults but with no specific proof. Simply because you say so is not proof, m'dear

[ZoraidaAllat]

@mmedefarge Flamenco is fusion! Have you ever seen Jewish folk dances? Have you ever seen European folk dances? Have you ever seen North African or Middle Eastern folk dances aside from "belly dancing?" All these varieties existed in Spain well before the Gypsies arrived there. All these forms contributed to the creation of "Flamenco" long before the gypsies arrived in Spain. No wonder Flamenco doesn't look like your limited, ignorant view of "Arabic dance."

[mmedefarge]

@ZoraidaAllat The fact that it is even called "Zambra Mora" distinguishes it from pure flamenco. it's a fusion dance with flamenco with the emphasis on it's N. African elements. Of course flamenco existed before the 18th century but there is no written history about this essentially Gypsy dance. The fact that flamenco still looks nothing like Arabic dance & still resembles Kathak shows it's true origins.