WOZZECK - (Amsterdam) Louis Gentile as TAMBOURMAJOR
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This is just bad.
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@LJBSasha I agree on this point, but I prefer not to decide what music is before listening to something. there's music for brain, music for emotions, music for body, music for prayer, music ... and music for a mix of these things. I repeat myself: one is not obliged to appreciate all, but should learn to recognize them.most of sacred polipohny of ars nova was based only on speculative criteria no less than structural music of the '60s and 70s.our emotions are subjectives.someone's moved by maths
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@yourockets3 secon part :) I am forced to accept that Michael Jackson was a creat professional even if I think his music was closer to shit than to music. and I'm forced too to admit he had great musicl talent ( I'm a musician I can evalutate this sort of things...). I think that in 2011 it' impossible to assume Schoenberg provocation on Cage ( "is a philosopher not a composer"). listen at least to sonatas and interludes ...
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@LJBSasha Thank :) your italian is comprehensible and it's such a rare thing to find someone who speaks italian out of italy. We can agree that all things are put in some sort of cages, but there are tihghter ones and wider ones. I think usually is a good exercise to try to open ours cages. Each of us has he's insurmontable walls, and this is right - we don't have to accept everything. what I'm asking you is not to dig cage's music, but to accept it from a critical point of view
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We can also note that even what was written in the Golden Age of Romanticism (1820-1910 more or less - with Puccini dying in 1924, Elgar in 1934, Rakhmáñinov in 1943, Richard Strauß in 1949 - & Shostakóvich taking some of its language and so keeping it alive until 1975!!) was by no means uninteresting for the mind when written by truly great composers with the best of intentions. Certainly what Wagner, Debussy, Berg & Shostakóvich did operatically fascinates both the mind as well as the emotions
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@yourockets3: Perhaps music - like MANY, many things - does end up put into a cage of some sort; however, let's face it: the best music speaks to BOTH the mind and the emotions. If music of mediæval times was supposedly written only for the mind (something I doubt very much), enough of it still speaks to the emotions (and no less that of the Renaissance as composed by Palestrina, Lassus, Victoria or Byrd, which openly does!). It's not like what Stravínskiy was deliberately trying at times.
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@yourockets3: First, let me assure you that your command of English, aside from a few spelling/grammatical mistakes, is amply acceptable.
Al meno, io posso Loro dire che il vostro inglese è meglio che il mio italiano, ed anche che ho passato tredici anni della mia vita come ragazzo a Roma (adesso è 33 anni dopo che ho partito da quella città per sempre). Però, non ho nessuno pazienza per la filosofia - nella cosa ditta non credo!! [Sono un pochettino fanatico come cristiano.]
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and thought can move emotions - but this isn't the point. you think there's something called music - I think there are several thungs called music. you say that music for survive have to tlak to emotion and to intellect - you put music in a cage ( :) ). Medioeval music was intended to be for mind only, rock for the body ( and emotions), tibetan chant for praying. it's not a point of agree or disagree. Cage is a composer you like it or not - at least because each composer/musician feels that.
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@LJBSasha it's a pity I have to anwer in a language that isn't mine - it is very difficult. you had to listen to sucha performance - I hunderstand your point of view, but it's wrong: too close. I'm not talkimg about novelty: I'm talking about poetry. cage opened a new space for music - a new space for listening. 4 33 make you aware on what music is, open your hears - it the world's score meaning it let sounds come and reveals them to the listener. this is phiosophical music.
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John Cage: thinker, maybe; composer, NO!!! If you feel otherwise, @yourockets3, with all due respect we'll simply have to agree to disagree. Experimentation for experimentation's sake dies very quickly - in fact, the very perception of something needing to be like that is a major reason in my opinion for the current moribund and irrelevant state of "classical" music.
One of the most powerful productions i have seen. Houses in all shapes and sizes return in every scene. And a marvelous peace of music. Maybe difficult at first but hang in there, you will get rewarded in the end.
derwozzeck 4 years ago 4
Seems like a good production. I like how the sloped house exterior is used for dramatic actions. The Drum Major here comes off as an obnoxious asshole as he should be. The orchestra seems pretty good too. Well done.
nibelungensohn 4 years ago 2