John Piper - Wealth is Almost Always a Curse, Not a Blessing

Proclaiming the Excellencies of Christ, Not Prosperity, Among the Nations"
1 Peter 2:9-12
October 26, 2008

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[Stereolabdream]

Thank you thank you thank you.

This evil of Hinn,Dollar,Copeland,White and their "wannabes" is spreading into the UK, along with the other nonsenses/evils of the "prophetics" like Patricia King.

Thank Goodness there are, despite the way it sometimes appears to outsiders...strong leaders who will fight against it passionately,through the Gospels true teaching, like John Piper. Let's all do what we can to spread true Christianity.

[soopahsnoopah]

Indeed, clergy and performance have long had a rich association with the other

[inheritthepromises]

Poverty is not a blessing. poverty is not the answer to poverty. faith is the answer to poverty.

Dr. Piper advocates rejecting all camels because he can't get one through the eye of a needle.

Faith gets the camel through the eye of a needle.

Lazarus did not go to heaven because he was poor.

Lazarus should have given money to those poorer than himself. The rich man did not go to hell becuase he was rich but because he didn't have faith.

Creflo Dollar is spiritual.

[Darrielm]

@Stereolabdream Creflo is not a prosperity preacher.. Creflo teaches that Obedience and seeking God only brings prosperity.. Creflo teaches about spiritual prosperity(spiritual growth) you have to listen to his sermons he is not a prosperity preacher trust me my Brother

[iwhitt567]

@vicktourthemonster Snopes confirmed it, camels fit through needles with oil. So rich men just have to bathe in oils to get into heaven.

[iwhitt567]

@timshapiro Need more people like you on occasion to remind the world of logic.

[iwhitt567]

It's like I'm watching a man have a seizure while he poorly interprets the Bible.

[dave1122drum]

that is great news. Regardless what the bible says god in general never needs money what so ever. It is fantastic that believers see the greed of the church demanding tithing and not responding. They have become smarter. I bet most of those believers give(tithe) to causes god cares most about like breast cancer and aids research. not money to lazy pastors and mortgages for dusty church buildings god never intended in scripture. If the whole church gave up there real estate they could cure alot

[fiveeagles]

Only 2percent of believers believing in tithing.

Money shows where a man's heart is. Does he love God or does he love mammon.

[SolideoGloriafella]

SirPlorkenblog,

Christians dont glorify poverty just because they dont glorify wealth.

The Bible teaches contentment. (1Tim 6). Mr. Piper has not jumped to the other extreme.

Proverbs 30:9-9

Keep falsehood and lies far from me;

give me neither poverty nor riches,

but give me only my daily bread. 9 Otherwise, I may have too much and disown you and say, 'Who is the LORD ?'

Or I may become poor and steal,

and so dishonor the name of my God.

[dave1122drum]

do i have a guilty conscious? no. how could i? i am poor. You are ignorant. You seem to not know much about your position judging by the length of your response. I think you think my comment was right on.

[frangipani1974]

dave1122drum, do you have a guilty conscience?