A. there are no objective moral values-please provide one...seriously just one
B. tampering the power of government and more importantly the tyranny of the majority is precisely the point of the Bill of Rights
C. an agreed upon subjective standard is "my rights end where yours begin," it is subjective but it is one we all tend to agree with (save the sociopaths). Enforcing that is another question
D. Stalin lost...aka clearly survival of the fittest did occur
@stevebnh, "pretty certain"? You don't KNOW? Are you a parrot? Polly want a cracker? It is clear that you, like most Atheists, care nothing for the actual facts and are REPEATING things you've heard without researching the contexts. Provide the scriptures and the contexts that prove your points and THEN we can have an intelligent conversation. Oh, but wait a minute, you won't do that because that would actually take effort and intellectual honesty.
@stevebnh, which brings us to the point, upon what basis do you say they are "awful"? Your opinion? How do you now justify "pushing" your opinion upon me by saying what I follow is wrong? Can you now see my point? God has given us a conscience by which we can know the moral standard he has given us. Also, where did you get the idea that the things you mentioned are "acceptable"? As if God is saying, "mistreat women, I love it"? Please provide scriptures for your assertions.
@stevebnh, yet with all those words you haven't actually said or proven anything. Please DEMONSTRATE exactly HOW I am cherry picking and abusing the context of the Bible to prove my points. What is ironic is that you even have the arrogant audacity as an atheist (if you indeed are) to make ANY moral judgments because nothing is truly wrong if there is no God.
Biblically speaking- Jesus replied: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.
Hard to live by,even for christianity. But even with these words, morality comes from many different cultures and kinds and to have a cohesive society, it is generally legislated in one way or another.
The morals of that judeochristian mythological figure we call Jesus are, in fact, very good. Love and forgiveness, I'm all in favor of that. Not because of faith, bu because of simple logic and rationality. However, I don't worship no myth, that's infantile.
"...Word of God..." and all of that is just based on blind belief. It's all mythology man, I'm sorry.
The Morals that Jesus taught have not changed one bit, everyman has his the free will, and his own understanding or morality, however, a true Christian, will base his understanding of morality on the Word of God, but deeper then that, a true Christian, will manifest the love of God in his life and to others, and that has never changed at all.
To questions the old testament, without understanding God first is pointless. God is Holy and Just. I pray you know the truth one day. I really do.
A. there are no objective moral values-please provide one...seriously just one
B. tampering the power of government and more importantly the tyranny of the majority is precisely the point of the Bill of Rights
C. an agreed upon subjective standard is "my rights end where yours begin," it is subjective but it is one we all tend to agree with (save the sociopaths). Enforcing that is another question
D. Stalin lost...aka clearly survival of the fittest did occur
Hopeful71 1 year ago
lol nice ved
MrRocko99 2 years ago
@stevebnh, "pretty certain"? You don't KNOW? Are you a parrot? Polly want a cracker? It is clear that you, like most Atheists, care nothing for the actual facts and are REPEATING things you've heard without researching the contexts. Provide the scriptures and the contexts that prove your points and THEN we can have an intelligent conversation. Oh, but wait a minute, you won't do that because that would actually take effort and intellectual honesty.
lodown31 2 years ago
@stevebnh, which brings us to the point, upon what basis do you say they are "awful"? Your opinion? How do you now justify "pushing" your opinion upon me by saying what I follow is wrong? Can you now see my point? God has given us a conscience by which we can know the moral standard he has given us. Also, where did you get the idea that the things you mentioned are "acceptable"? As if God is saying, "mistreat women, I love it"? Please provide scriptures for your assertions.
lodown31 2 years ago
@stevebnh, yet with all those words you haven't actually said or proven anything. Please DEMONSTRATE exactly HOW I am cherry picking and abusing the context of the Bible to prove my points. What is ironic is that you even have the arrogant audacity as an atheist (if you indeed are) to make ANY moral judgments because nothing is truly wrong if there is no God.
lodown31 2 years ago
@333333344444, short AND pointless... I like it.
lodown31 2 years ago
Biblically speaking- Jesus replied: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.
Hard to live by,even for christianity. But even with these words, morality comes from many different cultures and kinds and to have a cohesive society, it is generally legislated in one way or another.
guyncali2 2 years ago
@stevebnh I like your comment. Very humanistic.
20cigarrosconfiltro 2 years ago
The morals of that judeochristian mythological figure we call Jesus are, in fact, very good. Love and forgiveness, I'm all in favor of that. Not because of faith, bu because of simple logic and rationality. However, I don't worship no myth, that's infantile.
"...Word of God..." and all of that is just based on blind belief. It's all mythology man, I'm sorry.
20cigarrosconfiltro 2 years ago
The Morals that Jesus taught have not changed one bit, everyman has his the free will, and his own understanding or morality, however, a true Christian, will base his understanding of morality on the Word of God, but deeper then that, a true Christian, will manifest the love of God in his life and to others, and that has never changed at all.
To questions the old testament, without understanding God first is pointless. God is Holy and Just. I pray you know the truth one day. I really do.
johnnydigital77 2 years ago