Olavius2 Proves Homeopathy to James Randi
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"Physics defying"? What a ridiculous comment - there is not one thing, NOT ONE, that in any way shape or form "defies physics". Here's a challenge - demonstrate it.
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I find it hard to trust anyone with a candy cane in their breast pocket.
Also, using evidence that is 135 years old and nothing else, seems to be clutching at straws?
If you can point me to a full clinical trial with scientific controls & full analysis which accounts for outliers and the placebo effect and there's still a measurable effect from homeopathic treatment, your point would be more valid.
Science wants to better humanity, if homeopathy worked, it would have a mainstream following.
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@mikefromwa I'ts being used at MD Anderson, the nation's top cancer clinic. It's growing at 30% a year in India. There are five homeopathi hospitals in the UK. The CUbans use it to fight epidemics. The reason it not more popular in capitalist countries is because they can't patent the medicine andmake a trillion dolalrs off suckers like you.
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@Kruezoraxe What good would that do me?
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@PhatPat0420 These are my pajamas. I normally wear a tux to work.
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@jugarnaut40 It's now being used at the top rate cancer clinic in the US, MD Anderon in Houston, to CURE CANCER! Visit their web site if you don't believe it.
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James Randi and Prof. Rich Dawkins have something in common. They both have a vested interest in promoting themselves for financial gain - whether or not their science is good or bad.
Randi knows homeopathy works, but by being a supporter of the skeptics camp and by demanding trial conditions which are hard to produce, he gets lots of exposure whilst effectively protecting his 1 million dollars.
Dawkins ditto.
He's not interested in science. He's only interested in selling books.
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What's amazing to me is that homeopathy managed to become a debatable subject. How it got to the point of being sold along side actual pharmaceuticals is beyond me.
Homeopathy is only popular is America. This is because conventional healthcare costs so much in the states. They take a placebo because they can't afford real medicine.
Here in the UK, medical care is free. We get life saving treatment from highly skilled, qualified doctors. Do yourself a favour America. Stop buying homeopathic medicine from snake oil merchants. And get nationalised heatlhcare instead.
soundslave 11 months ago 4
@soundslave No, it's not true that "homeopathy is only popular in America." It is more popular in India and Europe and is grwoing at 30% a year.
Bandershot 4 months ago
How many times did you mention showing the difference between plain water and a homeopathic solution? God I was getting tired of that. And then you didn't do it! You didn't even show how Darwin did it.
If this is so simple, why haven't you won the million dollars yet? Randi loves a simple, straightforward demonstration.
Bottom line, homeopathy is bunk. Darwin never believed in it and I see no evidence that he demonstrated that it works.
Of course, one expects lies from quacks. No surprise here.
Astrobrant2 11 months ago 9
@Astrobrant2 Randi doesn't love a simple straight forward demosntration, if he did he would have contracted for one long ago. Read the rule to the Million Dollar Challenge. He's never signed it because its not a legal offer.
Watch attorney Victor Zammit's analysis of the MDC. Put dispostion of the million in the hands of an inependent thrid paqrty or court of law and see what happens.
Bandershot 4 months ago
There is a lot of talk about trying this experiment and about it proving homeopathy. But for one thing, I have an understanding that homeopathy is strictly for very large dilutions, I've heard claims of 1 in 10^20 and in another case 1 in 10^23. This would be between 10C and 12C. The solution in this experiment is 6C. Imagine the dilution suggested is the original, and then dilute that by the method suggested for 6C and that's 12C! yet again a big difference. 6:51 Ad Hominem by the way.
IppatsuTensei88 11 months ago
@IppatsuTensei88 WHen you talk about ad hominem are you speaking of Randi's comment that I'm an idiot and a criminal?
THe dilutions are only theoretical. Past 6C they're so small its hardly worth making a comparison, you're still faced with eplaining how it is that one particle in a million can affet biolgoical action.
Bandershot 4 months ago