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McDuff73 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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I will comment on treatment in a country where I have received it!
I had a heart attack 3 1/2 years ago I was 33 yrs old and healthy otherwise (poor genes)
I was taken to hospital I stayed for 7 days receiving all the necessary emergency treatment and support.
Over the next 12 months I was rehabilitated and closely monitored as I tried out my new meds then given a clean bill of health, this was however the only bill I received! (pun intended!)
I was treated in exemplary fashion throughout!
UncommonThinker (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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The columbians said the same thing! Vague description of an ok health service. I'm glad that all the years of studeing health care have shown you how good health care could actually be. Although people have been saying the same thing since the 1950's. But whatever. The 5 minute expert knows what he's talking about.
McDuff73 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Please provide a link to support both your claims that the WHO says theres an 80% margin of error in its reporting (why even bother if your so wrong!?)
And that the Columbians agree with your assertions. This will be the second time I've asked for evidence of what you claim by the way!
Also have you bothered to actually research and find the charity in the UK that has a £600 million research budget, not $'s but £'s!
we seem to have convieniently skipped by that one!
McDuff73 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Oh and if it hasnt been mentioned already the idiot in this video has been condemned by his own party for whats hes said about the NHS and his party have actually said his view in no way reflects the general opinion of the majority of his party or the majority of the UK.
In other words hes talking shite!
UncommonThinker (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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One "small charitible organisation" spends $600,000,000 a year? Bullshit! That is not small and I doubt that's true. The nobel prize in medicine mostly goes to doctors working in the united states.  And seven of the top ten medical breakthroughs came from the US. We also have better medical treatment with better results when treating patients. We could use UK style tort reform though. Ambulance chasers really drive up costs.
McDuff73 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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In the last 4 years USA has won twice and Europe have won twice hardly 'mostly'! if your gonna lie at least have the evidence to back it up!!!
As for the £600 mill I don't lie go do some research instead of boring us with your blinkered opinion 1 google search is all it took to find that organisation!
Yes your treatment is more effective thats why WHO has your country ranked as 37 for health care!
Behind such countries as Costa Rica, Chile, Colombia, Greece!
UncommonThinker (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Costa Rica, Chile, Colombia, Greece.

That's more than enough proof that the WHO ranking is full of crap. If you read their report you'd know it had an 80% margin of error and made several assumptions with very little indepth analysis.

And yes, we have the highest survial rates for most cancers out there. As well as heart disease. By far. Your system is OK. I wouldn't mind moving there some day. But our system does have several advantages that yours simply does not.
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You like your generalisations dont you!

So you think the study by the WHO is 'crap' do you have any evidence that this is the case or is that just a wild opinion!

So people who can afford to pay for screening and treatment of cancer survive better in the US I wonder what the figures would be like for all of those never diagnosed because they couldnt afford to be screened or treated!
I can see that as being an advantage to your figures whereas we treat everyone regardless of stats!!!
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I already told you the WHO fully ackmit their study has a high margin of error. You honestly think Columbia is a better place for sick people than the US? The fact that you beleive that BS is enough proof that you don't know much about healthcare around the world. By law all dead people are examined by a government coroner who lists the cause of death. Those cancer survival rates include the uninsured. The United states has several free and reduced price clinincs who do screenings.
McDuff73 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Sorry but you'll have to provide me with the evidence for your statement about the WHO admitting they are rubbish I cant seem to find it although admittedly I only looked for about 5 mins.
As for treatment in Colombia I dunno I have never needed healthcare there I cant possibly comment if its better than the States where I also havent been treated.
As for the dead people we are discussing death after treatment are we not so random people dying without previous treatment have no bearing on this.

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