Ouija Board & The So Called "Ideomotor Effect"

Some seek to explain away the weird experiences that occur when using the ouija board as the "ideomotor effect". This video discusses why this explanation isn't an adaquate theory.

Category:

Education

Tags:

• ideomotor
• effect
• ouija
• board
• danger
• spirits
• demons
• ghosts
• supernatural
• science
• spiritualism
• spiritism
• christianity
• God
• Jesus
• Christ

[Rockguitarnow]

Ouija is bogus, it's just people's real hands pushing it around. Usually one person dominates and pushes it.

[rmcdaniel423]

Claims about the paranormal, supernatural, spiritual, etc usually start with terms like "It is ... they are ... of course ... this must ... obviously ... " etc. What those claims almost invariably fail include is the follow up statement " ... because ...".

These claims would NEVER withstand the torturous crucible of actual scientific peer review.

[BackInTheCage]

Its a fucking piece of cardboard you moron.

[ZZzzzzzWhat]

@Shazoolo why do you refer atheists constantly instead of skeptics? there are religious people who don't believe in the Ouija board's supernatural proprieties.

[maju36able]

@MrZeus7 my uncle was a scientist and he believes in god ...he also said america is like 40 years behind everyone else as far as science goes but that was just a random irrelevant fact i for some reason felt the need to tell you.. you most likely know more than me about this subject but you havent really explained yourself you just keep saying im wrong and not going any further so its not really getting us anywhere

[maju36able]

@MrZeus7 i beleive in animals adapting not evolving a fish is a fish from the time the cells are formed and it will always be a fish it may end up with some mino flaws but it wont end up creating anything other than a fish no matter how long down the timeline you go theres no know what ACTUALLY happened dude.. science or not if you werent there its still a guess

[MrZeus7]

@maju36able There is plenty of evidence. I think the problem here is that you think a chimp is going to go through some fancy anime animation sequence and become a human. You seem to vastly misunderstand what ACTUALLY happens. I agree with you 100% - animals ARENT fucking pokemon. They DONT instantly transform!

[maju36able]

@rmcdaniel423 its all just guessing when you get down to it we werent there we dont know what happened but imo its not really important since is good for learning and religion for creating morals but i get annoyed when people believe one thing and dismiss other peoples view points.. not that you were theres some evidence but its things are still called theories for a reason

[rmcdaniel423]

@maju36able I understand that you were talking about people (not scientists, per se) who believe scientific claims without question. We agree that's foolish, whether it's unquestioning belief in science or religion. Where I believe you went wrong is in asserting that scientists and the understanding they have developed is based on no evidence. That is a gross misconception of the scientific process. My comment from 6 months ago was about the process, not individual beliefs.

[rmcdaniel423]

@maju36able No, you still don't get my point. Scientists have to give actual observable repeatable REASONS for why they make certain claims. Religions and paranormal shit does NOT. Faith is not a reason. It is not evidence.

Sure science has been wrong. It also questions dubious claims and corrects itself whenever error is found. Does religion do that? NO. It says "believe this ancient book without question, or burn in hell".

(LOL at your little tantrum of "THE END")

[rmcdaniel423]

@maju36able The big bang theory says NOTHING about the existence, or non-existence, of supernatural gods. It is merely an explanation for the many observable aspects of the universe. It does not try to answer the question of what CAUSED the event. That is the untestable realm of many hotly debated scientific hypotheses and religious claims.

Also, science does not say gods are impossible. It only says they haven't been satisfactorily observed as of yet.

[rmcdaniel423]

@maju36able Adapt + Adapt + Adapt (times millions of years) = evolve. It's a simple concept. It is substantially supported by DNA analysis and so on. It allows for many predictable explanations. How do you explain species that exist now, but no evidence of them in the far past, while past species are extinct? Species just magically poof into being? Support THAT with evidence, if you can. Stubbornness and ridicule does not make evidence go away.