True News: Wisconsin Inferno - Democracy Inaction!

Imagine storming your boss's office if you did not get as big a bonus as you wanted... From Freedomain Radio - http://www.freedomainradio.com

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• wisconsin
• public
• sector
• union
• busting
• voting
• democract

[brindlebriar]

Wait wait wait wait... did I understand that you, Stefbot, approve of goverment limiting the right of people to voluntarily get together and bargain collectively? Did you have a stroke and become stupid overnight and forget everything you've ever said in video, betray all your values, stop caring about the "gun in the room," or did I misunderstand something?

[strapt313]

@PersianPaladin So it nothing to do with state power? That's an interesting point of view you have. There are over 5 million incorporated companies in the US and you are referring to the ones who partner up with buddies in the state. Do you not see that it is the state that is to blame or are you just going to ignore this glaring fact?

[andyissemicool]

@PersianPaladin: The public sector unions make their money off the violence of the state. As far as I'm concerned, they have no "right" to bargain for that money, especially in a time where people need all the money they can get and can ill afford massive taxes.

[dudewithopinion]

It's nice to hear some intellectual honesty applied to issues of the day. You made an excellent point in another video where you mention the importance of philosophy in society. Philosophy is what's left when you strip away the biases, opinions, environmental influences and agendas. To learn philosophy is to learn the systematic discovery of truth. Ayn Rand would say to look at the premises of your thoughts. This is missing from 99% of public discourse today.

[PersianPaladin]

The unions have a right to protest if their collective bargaining rights are taken away. Who the fuck controls most of the resources or controls the monetary system? It certainly isn't labor. It's the bankers and the bosses in the private sector who then gain the most lobbying power over the government time and time again.

[DaveElectric]

@Rumplefrumple It could very well be possible for reason to thrive, but I don't think you understand where I'm coming from. I'm against the state, but I've learned to recognize that some people thrive on statism. "Reason" would alienate these people.

[pulsatingremedy]

@Beesnchickens

Were they wrong in being slave-owners themselves? Your 'founders' are not infallible.

[Rumplefrumple]

@DaveElectric just have to get enough people to see something for what it is and the rest who were previously alienated from reason will follow, regardless of whether they actually understand it or not. or maybe, we are doomed to be ignorant as an entire species until we are snuffed out. either way i'm beginning to feel pretentious speaking like this since i really don't have a damn clue about this or anything else really.

[Rumplefrumple]

@Beesnchickens not at all, i agree with you completely. it just seems to me that if we were to revolt, a new construct would emerge with the same requirements as the last one. maybe things will change... maybe not. as things are, it looks like we may find out soon enough. if things work out for the better i will see you on the other side, and we can then share a pitcher of beer and reminisce about how silly it all was.