Response to Landover Baptist Video
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You make some good points here. I don't think the Landover people will ever listen. They don't want answers to their objections. They certainly don't seem to cherish the ideal of free thought that atheists are supposed to hold to. They are fundies of a different kind. However, this video will help those who are interested in finding answers.
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Salvation is not simply getting a "get out of Hell free" card, but knowing that one is a sinner and needs a Savior. When the Holy Spirit comes into our lives, it is to give us eternal life, yes, but also to help us to live more godly lives her and now on earth.
A God that can't or doesn't change our lives for the better (more godly, knowing and doing His will) is not much of a God worth believing in and following.
Matthew 13:23 shows us that people will bear different levels of fruit.
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@zoeyjusko There's a lot that could be said about this. I can't speak on the controlling factor. I would agree with the statement, that if you are truly saved, then you will do good works. But I would say that how many good works and what kind of good works is different for each person.
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@spacenie: Yes, our faith tells us that salvation is not obtained through good works. But what alot of Christians, Protestants and Catholics, tell us is that if you are truly saved, you will do good works. If you don't, then it indicates that you're not really saved. To me, this is manipulative. I've heard this from Catholics and Baptists alike. It sounds controlling which is what creeps me out. What do you think about this?
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Sadly true. It is true that there are differences between these 3 groups, but we should be united by our faith in the one true God.
My main problems with Catholics and Orthodox Churches is when they try to add good works or rituals to the Gospel of grace. As if one needs to do something along with believing in order to be saved. That's not the one Gospel.
Still, all the killing that was done because someone thought different than you. Very sad for us and especially to God.
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@spacenie: I was referring to your post, "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly."
I'm glad to hear that the different denominations are working together up there in Maine. I love Maine by the way. Anyway, I think the big problems arise when Protestants, Catholics and the Eastern Orthodoxy get into it. They all considered themselves Christians too, but they all like to rip on each other.
I'm a real Christian and I love this video! Yes, I believe wholeheartedly even though Jesus is 100% silent, 100% invisible and answers prayers equal to chance, which now that I think about it, does seem a bit odd. Maybe I'll rethink this whole faith thing stop believing in invisible flying dieties and see how things work out. Since I found Jesus he has led me from a great job, to a walmart greeter, then to the soup line at the rescue mission. Maybe I'll try thinking for myself for a change.
morgan4xl 8 months ago
@morgan4xl
Wow! That's original.
Yes, please think for yourself and check out the evidence for God's existence/Christianity-
See for example- garyhabermas (com/articles/dialog_rexperience/dialog_rexperiences.htm)
godandscience (org/apologetics/why_christianity_is_not_false.html)
bethinking (org/bible-jesus/the-historicity-of-the-new-testament.htm)
reasonablefaith (org)
bethinking (org/science-christianity/intermediate/a-change-of-mind-for-antony-flew.htm)
Thank you.
spacenie 8 months ago
@spacenie I'll check your links and reply back in a day or so, but be aware I have spent a good deal of time doing my homework on the origins of religion and the results so far are nowhere near what I was taught in church. But I'm always up for reading more views.
morgan4xl 8 months ago
@morgan4xl
Thanks! I admit, it does take some time to find good sources, but they're out there.
spacenie 6 months ago