D'Souza / Loftus Debate, Pt 8/13

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"Does the Christian God Exist?": A Debate between Dinesh D'Souza and John W. Loftus, 2/9/10.
Mr. D'Souza is the author of _What's So Great About Christianity?_ and answered in the affirmative; Mr. Loftus, author of _Why I Became an Atheist_, answered in the negative.

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[Magnulus76]

"Model your life on what Jesus is like"... well, do we listen to the Pope, Herr Ratzingfuhrer", to find that out... like D'Souza does? Modelling your life on Jesus is just an appealing to RELIGION and all the authoritarian, untestable claims that goes along with it. No, model your life on what your own experience tells you is good. D'Souza fails here.

[BabyfartMcGeesak]

@Sweet92Sue Right, because we're so scared...

[911BeganTheEndOfGod]

Anybody who thinks that even Hitler deserves to be tortured FOREVER has something very wrong going on in the brain. even a puny unbrainwashed human being can figure out thats sick. the only one who deserves to be tortured forever is the one who tortures people forever eg: Your piece of shit christian god! hahahaha fuck you! if youre christian, im talkin to you!!! Higher IQ has been tied to atheism and found to be highly statistically significant : wikipedia article "religiosity and intelligence"

[911BeganTheEndOfGod]

@Sweet92Sue wow i guess im really going out on a limb in saying its way more likely that i live in some kind of a normal cause and effect universe made by a reasonable creator and theres just a lot of people in it who like to terrorize and dictate than it is likely that i live in a universe created by the most unimagiinably wicked capricious vengeful creator who will torture me forever after im dead just because i didnt believe "on faith" what one old impossible to agree on its meaning book says

[stevehauk]

I like the emphasis on the fruits of Jesus. To me the proof is in the pudding, how can anybody deny that.

[tha1ne]

lol i think its pretty clear that dinesh is winning here. oh btw, im not religious

[Sweet92Sue]

"Atheists take a faithful leap into the dark when they believe there is no life after death."--Dinesh takes a nightstick to atheism. BOOM!

[HonestTechnoAtheist]

@MrDanielHen I am non religious because I don't practice any religion. And atheism is simply without belief in gods which would also define me. I am not claiming that there is no god only that there is no evidence for one. And in lack of evidence I don't believe making me an atheist.

[MrDanielHen]

@HonestTechnoAtheist Then you should consider yourself nonreligious. From the Encyclopedia of Philosophy one will find the definition of an atheist is "One whom retains the position there is no God" (paraphrase)

So they are making a claim, while you say you do not see evidence and so you will not follow a religion. Unless you did not explain yourself properly, you are nonreligious.

[HonestTechnoAtheist]

As an atheist I see no evidence that there is any life after death or any reason why there would be so I do not have a belief that there is life after death.