Main Difference between Shia Zakirs and Shia Alims. History of Shia Zakireen in Pakistan

Thanks to brother KarrarSyed for providing this information which is provided here in the decription box.

Shaikh Ahmed Ahsai was a Shia Alim in Iran some 2 centuries back. He picked the ideas of the old devious Shia groups like Ghali's (Ghali is one who believes that Hazrat Ali (AS) is Allah) and Tafwizi's (Tafwizi's believed that Allah created Hazrat Muhammad (SAWAW) and Hazrat Ali (AS), and then they created every other thing and that these two run the affairs of the world). Today we call Ghali's as Nusairi's and Tafwizi's as Shaikhi's. But these two words Ghali and Tafwizi (or Mufawiza) are important, as you can find a number of Imam's sayings clearly declaring these two groups as kafir.
You may find details in Shaikh Suduq's risala Etiqadia http://www.scribd.com/doc/20732480/Eteqadaat-by-Sheikh-Sadooq-Islamic-Urdu-Book (see page 96 onwards)

Shaikh Ahmad Ahsai was declared kafir by the marjas of that time, and since then marjas have continuosly issued fatwas against this group (you can find these fatwas in any of the anti-Shaikhi books). Ulama of Iraq and Iran were able to push the Shaikhi's out of their lands, they then settled in Kuwait and continued their preaching.

Coming to Pakistan, they hired/convinced a number of Pakistani shia maulvi's/zakireen to promote their ideas. They were exposed by the book "Guldasta-e-Mawaddat" of one of the Shaikhi agents in Karachi, who published the letters of these maulvi's in the book how they took money from kuwaiti Shaikhi marjas, etc etc. They included Maulvi Bashir Ansari, Maulvi Ismail Deobandi (teacher of Taj-ud-din Haidery and father-in-law of Fazil Alvi), Agha Zamir ul Hasan (zakir), Amir Abbas Taunsavi (father of Ghazanfer Taunsavi), Hamid Mosavi (of TNFJ) to name a few.

It was this group who was very offended by Dhakku sahab's book "Ahsan-ul-Fawaid" (Sharah of Shaikh Sudooq's risala Etiqadia) and "Usool-ush-Shariya", Allama Gulab Ali Shah's "Noori Insan", etc because these books focused on pure Shia beliefs and negated the Shaikhi beliefs. They started calling the major ulama of Pakistan as "Muqasireen", "Khalsi Group", or "Dhakku group" i.e. Ayatollah Mufti Jafar Hussain, Ayatollah Allama Yar Shah, Ayatollah Hussain Bakhsh Jarra, Ayatollah Muhammad Hussain Dhakku, Hafiz Saif ullah Jafferi (ex Deobandi who did not cash himself like Maulvi Ismail or Taj ud din, instead he focused on Nahj-ul-Balagha and Sahifa-e-Kamila in his books), Allama Gulab Ali Shah, etc. Allama Arif Hussain Hussaini was also cursed on being with these ulama, when he became Quaid.

Today, most of the zakireen/maulvi's in Pakistan are inspired by the Shaikhi doctrine, and preach the Shaikhi beliefs, and our Shia listeners have become familiar to these tones.

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[freebee007]

why we lable all zakirs as nusari and ghali like this zakir, ghazanfar and even if hafiz tassaduq hussain,

whats ur opinion about hafiz tassaduq hussain, is he alim or ghali nusari,

when this guy say allah is Ahad means no beginning no ending to logically Alllha aik hay ka meaning naheen banta explain please

[haqkiawaz]

@freebee007

There is no doubt about the fact that Allah does not have any "Jisam", he has no beginning and no ending, but he is the only 1 like this. Woh Allah 1 hi hay who has no begining and no ending. He is the only 1 Allah who doesnot have any Jisam.

Also if u say that Allah are more than 1 then violate many Ayaats of Quran. Allah says in Quran that had there been more Allahs then the system of the universe would have been destroyed. Our Kalmaas stress on the point that Allah is only 1

[freebee007]

@haqkiawaz

Allah is ahad jo sshumar main na a saky, jis ki na abtada ka pata na intaha ka,

us ka aik ho to hamaree samj k liay hay,

Aiema n bataya allah aik hay aur ahad hay,

dnt be misled,

whatever we know about toheed, nabowat etc is by Aima(as)

[haqkiawaz]

@freebee007

Respected Sir Alhamdolilah we are not mislead. We follow Scholars who are atleast certified Alims and who know Arabic, Quran,Hadees and Fiqah better than these selfmade Alims (Zakireen). Here this zakir "Murtaza Mahdi" is clearly saying that Allah is not 1, he added on by saying that in Quran Allah says that he has children and that is because in certain situations Mola Ali becomes Allah and he had children. Ghazanfar says Mola Ali is Mabood whereas Allah says (La Mabood a ila hoo)

[ilikereallity]

Masha'Allah Brother....... !!! Allah aap ko Jaza e Khair ata farmaye...! jin k Dil mein Ali (as) ki sach Muhabbat hai aor Jihalat ki muhar nahi lagi hui wohi aapkay Paigham ko Qabool krein gey. But jo jahil Majalis mein jatay hi Chaskay k Liye hain wo kabhi nahi samgein gey.

Jazak'Allah

(***WAMA ALINAA ILLAL BALAAGH***)

[059shan]

he is nusehri ,not shia.... and nusehri are kafir not shia....

[yellowtubed]

shia hain gandu en ki pan ko lun mera shia =peshab beta yeh number mera 03034417501 i will fuck your mother

[baaz5]

aap sirf is point ko lay k Inhen BASTARD aur KAfir keh rahay hain...

Hadith hay jo Kisey Muslim ko kafir bolta hay wo khud Kafir hay... to Plzz.. kafir ka lafz soch samajh kar istemaal karain...

main manta hu Kuch zakir aisey chezain boltay hay jin ko ager explain na kiya jai to wo zahiran galat lagty hay.. lakin is ka matlab ye to nhn kay aap un par Kufer kay fatway laga dain...

Zakir e Ehlbait hay, marhoom hain kuch to khayal karain...

[baaz5]

Mere bhai ab aap ne bhi wo Nasibio wala kaam shuru kar dia hay, jo hamary Hadith ki kitabo or Majliso main se ultay seedhy be tuqy chezain nikaal kar nafratain phelatay hay or hamain kafir boltay hain..

Pehlay Zakir ne kya kaha Allah(swt) Ahad hay... havn;t u read Qul Huwallah ho Ahad.. ab is Ahad aur zakir k Ahad main kya farq hay... Wahid ka matlab kya hay "Ek" aur Ahad ka "Ek" to akhir in dono main farq kya hay... Wahid wo ek hay jo divide ho sakta ho.. aur Ahad wo jo divide nhn ho sakta..

[farhanabbas2009]

well done brother expose these jahil persons before innocent momins we all must listen to ulma e haqa

[freebee007]

@haqkiawaz

murtaza mehdi is new to me n I see him a very week zakir so he is out of my list of worth listening , just listen to him on website once,

Ghazanfarat least have some substance but u ok these pple some time do byan with out references and milead common follower,

thanks

[haqkiawaz]

@freebee007

Brother jo Wilayatay Ali may Shak karay woh "Bastard" hay. Yea to aap maantay hain aur hum bhi maantay hain. Lakin jo Allah ki Toheed may Shak karay. Allah kahay "La Mabood a ila hoo" (There is no Mabood other than Allah) aur log Aa kar Mola Ali ko Mabood kahain. Log Raboobiat may Allah kay shareek banaein. Agar Ali pay Shak karnay wala Bastard ho sakta hay to bila jhijhak Allah pay Shak karnay wala kia ho ga?????

Anyways i m sorry for this word