Ruby Payne Does Not Understand Poverty

Ruby Payne is a... I don't even know what she does. Recently she has been giving workshops on how the minds of poor people are different from the minds of the middle class.

As per request, this video is released under the GPL v 2.1 insofar as youtube's ToS will allow me to do so.

She has done no research.
She has no data.
She presents everything she has found as being scientifically sound, when it is most certainly not.

Watch the vid.

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[Morningcoffee300]

If you read the book and listen to this guy, it shows that he does not know what he is talking about.

[JohnWittle]

@Morningcoffee300

You have been posting comments on this video since October 2009. It is now August 2011. You have made some arguments which are legitimate and I am totally okay with those comments, but now it seems like you are trying to simply discredit me through immense volume.

[PlaygroundsWillLaugh]

"Only the poor can understand the shame of poverty, greater than the shame of the greatest sinner. For the sinner, vanquished by his own other self, is in one sense the victor. But the poor are truly vanquished: by their world, by their padrones, by fortune and by time. They are beggars always in need of charity. To the poor who have been poor for centuries, the nobility of honest toil is a legend. Their virtues lead them to humiliaton and shame. " - Mario Puzzo; Fortunate Pilgrim

[JohnWittle]

Describing the poor as "beggars always in need of charity" is insulting.

[rawthoughts]

Please read the scientific article, "Miseducating teachers about the poor: A critical analysis of Ruby Payne's claims about poverty."

[rawthoughts]

@Morningcoffee300 I sincerely doubt Ruby Payne's (non-scholarly ) book was cited in a positive manner in any empirical research literature. In fact, there exist no literature that support her book as evidence-based. I am wondering, Did you read these suggested materials? And if so, please provide cited page numbers for Payne's book endorsements. Cheers, 

[Morningcoffee300]

@rawthoughts Some is mentioned in Two books are Teaching Boys Who Sturggle in School, and Poverty is Not A Learning Disability. There are just to many to mention. However, speak to people who grew up in poverty and read Dr. Payne's book.You will find the very best in profound insight.

[Sychotic1]

@jct19122 I wonder where is "moth" is. Actually this book is crap and full of prejudice. I don't understand why it is marketed to teachers.

[rawthoughts]

@morningcoffee300 You stated, "More and more research has been done by a wider range of professionals and Dr. Payne’s work has gained support from both practitioners and theorist." Would you mind providing the literature? I'd like to view it.

[lifeasatrucker]

@PlaygroundsWillLaugh because the ceilings are usually lower

[edom7]

Hmmmm, the work of numerous professionals with education and experience, or the rantings of someone who lacks both, and is not capable of significant degrees of rational intellectual thought, who should I listen to?