Can you be both pro-Israel AND pro-Palestinian?

EPISODE 7: Asking the question of how you can be both pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian. I give a couple reasons why. Important to know about the cut in funding to UNSCO.

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[give1989]

you talk about hate? well look at the Israelis actions by bringing the orphans from all over the world, and to tell them that the Palestinians murdered their parents? who encourages the hate now?

one more thing the name Palestine was already existed British mandate only shaped the borders, so please don't distort the facts.

[andrewsummey]

@give1989 where do you get this orphan stuff? Palestine did not exist and has never existed as an independent state, culture, people, etc. Name one Palestinian leader/King/prime minister/ whatever before Arafat. Who was it?

[give1989]

dude there are no Jewish pals, you didn't read about the Jewish immigration to Palestine ?

you made it sounds like they were already exist and wanted to separated.

let me ask one question what about the Palestinian people who still keeping their keys of their houses? hoping one day they will get back.

[andrewsummey]

@give1989 everyone was Palestinian - Jews, Christians, Muslims, Arabs, etc. It was a British mandate...do you know who controlled it before?

[uchihao]

but now the "Pals" want to create a state right? but Israel and the US dont want them too? im so confused :S and whats with the whole Israeli occupation thing? if Isreal already has a state why are they building illegal settlements out side of their borders? I dont know a lot about the politics of this topic, just wanted some clarity...

[andrewsummey]

@uchihao If the Pals want a state, why do they choose so many actions that go against that goal? What is the possibility that they want a state LESS than they want to destroy Israel? Next: Illegal according to whom? Some other nations? The UN? Sure. But, according to a higher authority, no. It is the others who are illegally occupying. Besides, they aren't borders. They are armistice lines. It is better to describe the issue as disputed borders and claims. What do you think?

[drdavethedude]

@saadasim You're not justifying, but conveniently omitting. Arab massacres of JEws in Hebron 1518, Safed 1834, Jaffa 1921. 1929 in Safed, Hebron and Jerusalem. In '47 and early '48 Arab terrorism killed more than 200 Jewish civilians. There have been at least 40 separate massacres of Jews by Arabs throughout the Middle East since the creation of Islam. Thought you should have mentioned that as well.

[drdavethedude]

@saadasim Wrong. Israel has negotiated peace deals with both Egypt and Jordan at great risk to itself. Netanyahu will negotiate with Abbas if he would just show up, and quit insisting on concessions before they even meet. Israel is NOT taking "their" land, it is retaking state owned land from Arab squatters who illegally build on it, and only after due process in the courts which often takes years. No state allows citizens to build homes wherever they feel like.

[Futuredesire10]

I wish you were funny. You're fucking annoying.

[chugalongway01]

@drdavethedude You don't even know what the word Arab means. The word Arab is a generic term which means anyone in the ME whose primary languge in Arabic, regardless of religion.Most Arabs are Mulim,some are Christian and you even have Jewish Arabs[God forbid]

I'm your not going to believe the bullshit in your comment. It pure Jewish mythology,ie bullshit.

Arafat was born in Egypt , his mother Zahwa Abul Saud, was from a Jerusalem family, his father was from Gaza.

[drdavethedude]

@chugalongway01 "Palestinians" are Arabs, no more no less...not local peoples that converted to Islam...their leaders have admitted this dozens of times..most famous quote from Zuheir Mohsen. Most British Mandate period Palestinian Arabs arrived in the 19th century from various Arab territories of the Ottoman empire...many know this themselves since their names describe their origin and tribe...Arafat was Egyptian, NOT Palestinian. You're misinformed...believe what you want.

[drdavethedude]

@chugalongway01 "Lavon Affair" arrests were in 1954, Jewish expulsions from Egypt started with the Cairo Pogrom in 1945...half of Egyptian JEws were already expelled by 1950...are you seriously implying that the Lavon Affair, which occured AFTER Egypt had already attempted to annihilate Israel 6 years earlier, was the cause??? Unless the Egyptians were psychics and new the future...your implication is ridiculous.

[chugalongway01]

@drdavethedude Stop repeating Jewish mythology. The Moslem Arab conquest did not involve any mass immigration of Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula into Palestine or any colonization to that region. many of the native inhabituants were converted to Islam and the predominately Arab Christian and Arab Jewish population became predominately Arab Moslems. Only a new religion came in the 7th century.

How did the anicent Hebrews get there?

A Pali would have more Israelite blood than a khazar Jew

[chugalongway01]

@drdavethedude 700,000 Jews were violently "upsurped"(sic) from Arab countries in the late 40s,-Google CRUEL ZIONISM and THE LAVON AFFAIR.

Jewish explusion was a result of what the zios did in Palestine. A few well planned zionist bombs help as well.For thousands of years Arab Jews lived in relative peace with Arab Muslim/Christians until the Khazar Jews turned a religion into nationalism, ie it was a reaction to Jewish violence in Palestine .

The land belonged to the people who owned it.

[drdavethedude]

@chugalongway01 Hamas and PLO charters are what they are...read them yourself. Watch Palestinian TV, or what their leaders and religious establishment preach, what's taught in Palestinian school books...there are 100s of clips on MEMRI...then tell me about recognition. It was Ottoman land for 500 years, not Arab. Nothing stolen. How did Arabs get to Israel in the first place...spontaneous generation??? Most of today's "Arab world" was violently "occupied" in the 6th century.

[drdavethedude]

@chugalongway01 Of course, by that logic the rape of a woman is okay if she is dressed immodestly...she asked for it...is that what you're saying? With logic like that I can see why you side with "Palestinians"!...700,000 Jews were violently "upsurped"(sic) from Arab countries in the late 40s, early 50s...any Jews massacring Arabs during their expulsion? Any Jewish suicide attacks on German civilian buses, bars, school buses, sleeping children, during the WW2 holocaust?

[chugalongway01]

@JerusalemPulseRadio Tell me were in the UN Charter does it say the UN has the right to divide someone homeland for a bunch of Khazar Jews chased out of Europe?

Maybe you want to read Article 22 of the Conventant of the League of Nations. Then you can explain how Britian could give away someones homeland to a alien people from Europe in this post colonial age.

[chugalongway01]

@drdavethedude If Israel wasn't occupying Arab land and oppressing Pali society then this brutal crime wouldn't have happened. You people gotta understand than all pali violence is reactionary to Jewish violence.

If you were violently upsurped from your home and lost everything you had, you would be bitter no ?

What your thoughts on the stunted babys of Gaza ?