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"Without the claim there would be no need for the title atheist". True. My in my country the majority are atheists. However, very few define themselves as such. There is simply no need.
A scientist (i cant remember his name right now) once was asked "why do scientist try to disprove god" he then replied "If any scientiest found ANY proff that god existed, he would then be the most famous man on earth, and to say we don't t try to prove god is ludacrist"
thank you for pointing out the fact that different dictionaries give different definitions of certain words. it should be clear by that that that there is no one specific definition. so the first definition you give, involving superhuman controlling powers is moot since some religions are, ill say more like "pokemon" for sake of brevity. the second fits atheism perfectly, and the third as well, if you dont count the word "worship" which not all religions require anyway.
The second fits Atheism perfectly? Since when does and Atheist require faith? The center of what an Atheist holds true is based on logical reasoning, which contradicts faith.
no, sir. as ive said many times, there is no evidence of gods existence or inexistence. if you say that you can prove empirically that there is no god, i challenge you to do so. the only logical stance you can take is that you do not know. therefore, to say that you "know" whether or not god exists requires an act of faith, or some other unsound reasoning. so, atheism requires faith.
So, if a religion requires faith, that means that they "know" that their God(s) exists. Yet, as you have said many times, there is no evidence of Gods existence or inexistence. So are you saying that religion does not require faith?
im saying that in order to say that you "know" that god does or does not exist, you must be going on faith alone. this is because there is no logical evidence pointing to either the existence or inexistence of god. to "know" that god exists requires faith (or stupidity) to "know" that god does not exist requires faith (or stupidity) i am saying that religion requires faith. this includes atheism.
Okay, good point. Lets go to the Oxford Dictionary. It states religion as "Human recognition of superhuman controlling power and especially of a personal God entitled to obedience". Now that obviously doesn't fit with Atheism.
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Websters New World Dictionary: "any specific system of belief and worship, often involving a code of ethics and a philosophy."
These surely have more effort put into them to define a religion than mine.
it should be clear by that that that there is no one specific definition.
so the first definition you give, involving superhuman controlling powers is moot since some religions are, ill say more like "pokemon" for sake of brevity.
the second fits atheism perfectly,
and the third as well, if you dont count the word "worship" which not all religions require anyway.
as ive said many times, there is no evidence of gods existence or inexistence.
if you say that you can prove empirically that there is no god, i challenge you to do so.
the only logical stance you can take is that you do not know.
therefore, to say that you "know" whether or not god exists requires an act of faith, or some other unsound reasoning.
so, atheism requires faith.
to "know" that god exists requires faith (or stupidity)
to "know" that god does not exist requires faith (or stupidity)
i am saying that religion requires faith. this includes atheism.