Should the last 12 verses of Mark be in the Bible?
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Emperor Constantine’s priests and bishops decide what books when in to the New Testament. I always find it strange how some of the gospels were ban across the Roman Empire when they had been in use for 250 years. Have a look at the one St Peter wrote. He was not very important disciple as he only new Jesus and bought Christianity to Rome.
Bronte719 3 weeks ago
@amenamed what is the anathema? are you referring to the one in revelation?
corkystorky 1 month ago
Dr Wallace implies that "King James and New King James" say nothing about the authenticity of Mark 16:9-20. This is extremely misleading. Here's the footnote from NKJ:
"Mark 16:9-20 is bracketed in NU-Text as not original. It is lacking in Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus, although nearly all other manuscripts of Mark contain it." I've found NKJ to be accurate both in its (very literal) translation and its notes on contemporary scholarship.
LarghettoCantabile 2 months ago
If it isn't in the original writings, why add to the message? How can a layperson trust what is being taught when the writings are considered holy and inspired by God in their minds, but scholars who understand that some writings were not INSPIRED BY GOD but instead have been instituted by man are not telling laypeople the difference? What about anathema to those who add to or take away from the message? Incredible.
amenamed 2 months ago
This was a one-sided discussion. The certral claim that Dr. Wallace makes -- that Mk. 16:9-20 is not in "the oldest authorities" -- is false. These 12 verses are not in Vaticanus and Sinaiticus, from the 300's, but they are supported in the 100's by Justin, Tatian, Irenaeus, and probable by the author of Epistula Apostolorum. And Bock's claim that verses 9-20 are based on the other accounts is demonstrably untenable.
JamesSnapp 5 months ago
@pianokid100 OK... so we should believe you some kid posting in a chat room over PHD biblical scholars/ professors that probably have twice as much experience in the field than you are old? Golf Clap!
cctman 7 months ago
@pcgamerjoe
Yes.
AntonBatey 11 months ago
@AntonBatey Huh? "There probably is no such thing as god, so the book is 100% man made."
At best, don't you mean "There probably is no such thing as god, so the book is *probably* 100% man made"?
pcgamerjoe 11 months ago
These guys act like this is no big deal; I think it is, from their point of view. The Bible can be corrupted, and it's written by men, compiled by men and the books were voted upon by men. There probably is no such thing as god, so the book is 100% man made.
AntonBatey 1 year ago 2
they are lying. this portion contains several writings that are used by different denominations . For example "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." can be used by people that teach that baptism is necessary for salvation. "And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues" is used by pentecostals to teach that speaking in "tongues" is required by all to be saved
pianokid100 2 years ago 2