Revisionist History: Jefferson's Koran and America's Muslim Congressman

We here at the VorthosForum love God's sense of humor -- how He occasionally rubs our nose into our stupidity and then sits in the heavens and laughs. (Psalm 110). The swearing in of Keith Ellison is a classic example.

A-h-h-h-h - isn't it precious that we have our first Muslim congressman (what a melting pot we are!) and he gets to swear his oath of office -- not on a Bible God forbid -- but on the Koran...with Nancy Pelosi in attendance. Not a problem, though - and oh lookee here...we can have this precious "We are the world" moment sanctified by the use of one of our nation's founder's copy of the Good Book -- the author of the Declaration of Independence no less! You see, they were so enlightened back then, so open-minded. Why I bet they wrote the First Amendment with the Mohammedans in mind. And Jefferson just loved that ol' copy of the Koran; kept it by his bed and read in every night. I bet.

Yeah, right. Allow us to give you a quick history lesson and then you can find out just why no one can do irony better than God.

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[aaronready1]

i have a hard time with this one....the other side of this is that American ships where in the territorial waters of these muslim countries. Do i think the koran encourages attacking the unbelievers. Yes. Do i think Jefferson dealt with the situation in the right way? i don't know. I tend to not think so. The muslims weren't over in american waters attacking were they? we were there. History is always complicated. I think there might be more to this story. David Barton is a good guy though

[VorthosForum]

@aaronready1 - Are you kidding me? This is why we are losing. (Are you a Christian? If you are, shame on you.) First, we weren't in their waters. No one owns the oceans. Second, we weren't attacking them. We were just conducting righteous trade. These terrorists were doing precisely the same thing that Somalians now -- and Mohammed then -- did: steal, kill and pillage. Stop drinking the relativistic, moral equivalentcy kool-aid.

[ShadowPa1adin]

Dude, David Barton is a historical revisionist and is a promoter of Christian Theonomy (aka "Christian Sharia"). I take it that by promoting his work this channel is not so much opposed to the removal of civil-rights as it is concerned about whether or not the people taking away those rights wear bow to Mecca.

Also, I find it funny how in discussing the events in the middle-east back then he avoids mentioning the Treaty of Tripoli, which explicitly states that America is not a Christian nation.

[WillShakespeare2007]

@VorthosForum - This is very clear and well put together and is a further example of Islamic deception that we in England are now very familiar with. For further reading people should the excellent wikipedia article "First Barbary War" from this they can get a good overview and seek out other sources.

This is also why the Marine hymns first verse is;

From the Halls of Montezuma,

To the shores of Tripoli;

We fight our country's battles

In the air, on land, and sea;

[gunner23]

@ShadowPa1adin Please stop with ad hominem attacks, you do realise that nothing in your statement refutes Bartons version of the events in question.

[wildwesthorseman]

Thank you for sharing this information. Ecclesiastes 1:9  The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

[HomeTheaterNut]

@ShadowPa1adin - You purport the very same duplicity that you accuse David Barton of. The passage "As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion" is referring that the United States is not a theocracy. So, to further solidify the conditions of treaty , Jefferson was making the point that the people of the United States of America hold no ill feelings towards the Muslims based on their belief system alone; far different from theirs!

[AHMEDBULAXUBEY]

What they was trying to do was slave arabs. But Arab don't play that that is why they kill the white evil men. Why are they doing arab land

[USRecoveryV2Kx]

@Mrwilwak

Long before the Muslims began their enslavement of others, the Jews were already doing it & even going the extra mile to ensure that the Muslims would take the historical fall. In the past, the "Exodus" was fabricated to overwrite Jewish slavetrading and slaveholding through the bogus claim that the Jews had actually been the slaves. Even today, $42M has been backtraced to organizations actively involved in a campaign to demonize Islam to clear the path for Israeli terrorism.

[USRecoveryV2Kx]

Imagine my surprise when I came across the Talmud, I found Treachery, lies and deceit is part of their common law:-

- Babha Kama (113b) It is permitted to DECEIVE Christians.

- Zohar (1,160a) Jews must always try to DECEIVE Christians.

How much longer are you going to believe that Islam is the religion that is out to get you when the real wolves are already in your own backyard indoctrinating the sheeple of this nation into a clusterfuck of Islamic demonization?

Amusing to say the least!

[TheDynamiteGeneral]

In 1793, Muslim Barbary pirates captured the U.S. cargo ship Polly. The ship was plundered and the crew was imprisoned. The Muslim captain justified their brutal treatment: "for your history and superstition in believing in a man who was crucified by the Jews and disregarding the true doctrine of God's last and greatest prophet, Mohammed."

What Every American Needs to Know About the Qur'an - A History of Islam & the United States by Bill Federer

[732ChMartel]

@aaronready1 You're completely mistaken about America being in the wrong by being in their territorial waters. First of all, they didn't own the Mediterranean. Secondlyj, the Moslem corsairs roamed as far afield as Iceland, England and Ireland, where they raided an entire village called Baltimore. Look it up!!

[Klingschor]

Actually, the mandate to conquer the world is more the product of Islamic Jurisprudence, rather than the Qur'an.