Händel: Te Deum for the victory of Dettingen (HWV 83)

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Haendel Concert in Halle
April 2009

Ulrike Fulde : Soprane
Albrecht Sack : Tenore
Felix Plock : Bass

MDR Rundfunkchor
Hallenser Madrigalisten
Händelfestspielchor
Chor des Oper Halle

English Concert and
Händelfestspielorchester Halle
Dir. : Howard Arman

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[shnimmuc]

The greatest Te Deum of all.

[jerlatti]

Truly amazing.

[shnimmuc]

@metroboy777 I understand what you are saying. I just disagree. Mozart is one of the greatest composers but for me he is not a Handel or a Beethoven or a Bach. I prefer Haydn because he is far more original. Mozart sounds like many composers. On the other hand Haydn has no real imitators, because he was so unique in his creation. You cannot predict what is coming next in his work. Alfred Einstein (Musicologist) is who you are quoting not Albert the (physicist). .

[metroboy777]

@shnimmuc Hope you get what I meant all the time. Bach is great. Haendel is luminous. Both are inspired. But... “Mozart's music is so pure and beautiful that I see it as a reflection of the inner beauty of the universe.” —Albert Einstein --- Quoted in P.A. Bucky. When the Angels want to worship God, the sing Bach. When they want to praise him, they sing Haendel. When God wants to please himself...He listens to Mozart. Thanks for sharing your point of view with me.

[metroboy777]

@shnimmuc Thanks for reinforcing my point. If you read my comment carefully, I said Mozart used to write real music (full-scale works) at 13, not at 19 or 21; and even earlier on. Both, full orchestration, and voices for soloists and choir, not trio sonatas. You call 98% of Mozart's sacred music "perfunctory"!! Ave Verum Corpus, Missa Longa in C, Magnificat KV193,Laudate Dominum, Misericordias Domini, Missa Solemnis KV139 (11 when finished),the great Kyrie Eleison,Ave Maria, Dixit Dominus & more

[shnimmuc]

@metroboy777 Don`t talk about stuff you know nothing about. Handel wrote some of the greatest trio sonatas ever written when he was 11. Dixit Dominus at 21. Bach`s organ works and first cantatas were written before he was twenty.

[shnimmuc]

@metroboy777 You are a victim of the Mozart mythology. In Choral music, Mozart can not stand in the shadow of either Handel or Bach. He wrote 2 great works the C minor Mass and the Requiem, the rest are wonderfully written but perfunctory in content. Handel wrote 27 oratorios, countless cantatas of sublime content. Bach wrote over 200 cantatas, the B minor mass and the Passions. No where is Mozart in that league. Mozart`s best music is in the operas.

[metroboy777]

@shnimmuc at that age, whereas Mozart composed music...real music early on, and only lived 35 years, not 65. I don't mean to insult anyone, but that's the reason why most people love Mozart's music, while a few hate it and look down on it. Bach is the mathematical-musical genius, Haendel represents pomp,yet triviality with a good taste. Mozart...Mozart represents the blend between the most innocent and humble humanity with all its faults and the most powerful desire of becoming better. Nice talk

[metroboy777]

@shnimmuc ...the voices, sopranos and mezzos in duo, staccato, high pitch, emulating what he conceived to be the voices of cherubim and seraphim praising God. The symbolism behind the notes is sublime! "Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus Dominus Deus Sabaoth" He repeats the word "sanctus three times and no more, alluding to the Holy Trinity which is the maximun expression of God as a whole. Mozart was just 13 when he finished his Te Deum. Both, Bach and Haendel were learning the basics of harmony...

[metroboy777]

@shnimmuc The truth...how painful it is for some. Where? Books, interviews, gatherings, and evidence. Hundreds...thousands of hours listening, analyzing...comparing and questioning. Debating. Mozart´s music goes beyond music itself. He speaks out with the phrases, with the harmony itself, with the sound of the words. He conveys hidden messages combining some or all of the above. Pay attention to the extract "Tibi Omnes Angeli, Tibi caeli et Universae Potestates". He changes the distribution of

[shnimmuc]

@metroboy777 Where in the hell do you get your information. I think you had better be careful about  the stuff you make up.

[metroboy777]

@shnimmuc Not many choirs and orquestras can brag about playing and singing Mozart as he truly composed his masterpieces. How do I know? Because very few play them with the right tempo, dynamics, and above all: the balance between the orchestra and the voices. There's been a plot incited by ancient Mozart's critics in order to fade the sound of trumpets and other brass and, therefore, create the sensation of lack of magnificence. This would lead some people to believe his music isn't ever "near"