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Uploaded by on Mar 29, 2011

Jay Bakker interviewed on ABC's "Beliefs".
Link to his Revolution Church website (including podcast sermons):
http://www.revolutionchurch.com/
Link to interview on ABC website:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/dramatic-stand-church-bakker-jay-faith-beliefs...

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  • WOW....

    DONT CHANGE THE WORD OF GOD

    GOD IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION.

    THIS MAN IS NOT ORDAINED OF JEHOVAH GOD.

    THE WAY TO LIVE IN WRITTEN AND IT IS HOLY. LIKE IT OR NOT.

    WE FACE LUSTS OF THE FLESH.. WE ALLLLLL DO.. BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT WE GIVE IN TO IT..  WE ALLLLLL FACE THE SAME LUSTS.. MOST JUST WONT ADMIT IT.. IF THEY DID, IT MIGHT STOP THE CONFUSION OF BEING BORN THAT WAY. ITS LUST.

    LEVITICUS 18:22~HOW YOU GONNA DISPUTE THAT? YOU CANT CHANGE WHAT THAT SAYS. ONLY JUSTIFY

  • @MsTee7475

    Please don't use all caps and don't drop quotes from your book of fairytales as if they mean anything to anyone else.

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  • If people are going to omit parts of the Bible or say that those parts were not inspired by God then there is no point in believing in the Bible as a whole. I also think that love doesn't necessarily mean allowing people to do whatever they want. Yet again, its just my opinion and I'm not sure what to believe regarding homosexuality. If I stick to the Bible its wrong. If I omit that part of the Bible, my faith is false. If I think in pure love, I would not condemn gays to hell. It's hard stuff.

  • something tingled when he said no sin... I hate Christianity, but I honor this man

  • No the only thing people who call themselves Christians need to do is truly begin to act like Jesus instead of doing a lot of talk without walk, It’s sad when other world religions have a better and clearer understanding of Jesus than So Called Christians do .

  • "I" don't see it as a sin. I, I, I, I, I. The Baker family is cursed dude is a Universalist.

  • God bless you Jay. you are preaching the goodnews

  • @Whitese7en

    "The only remedy for the disease of sin, is Jesus Christ."

    Leaving aside the fact that we are an evolved species and that "sin" never entered the world, how does a dude who does an elaborate suicide by cop fix anything? And you even claim this being is all-knowing and set up the system with precise foreknowledge. It makes no sense. I'd expect much more from something that is supposed to have the property of perfect communication.

  • @Whitese7en

    "The only remedy for the disease of sin, is Jesus Christ."

    Leaving aside the fact that we are an evolved species and that "sin" never entered the world, how does a dude who does an elaborate suicide by cop fix anything? And you even claim this being is all-knowing and set up the system with precise foreknowledge. It makes no sense. I'd expect much more from something that is supposed to have the property of perfect communication.

  • @wimsweden

    *all claim

    *how do they

  • @Whitese7en

    "indwelt by the Holy Spirit" How does that work? If a protestant, catholic, orthodox, etc. all claims to be "indwelt" but they come to different doctrines, how to they assert their particular beliefs as true?

    "When we are born, we are born separated from God due to sin." But you claim a perfect being created us. And your own book says good trees cannot bear bad fruit. If we are born of sin, i.e. imperfect, then that falls apart.

  • @wimsweden To be unsaved, means to not be indwelt by the Holy Spirit. What that means, is that one hasn't yet been reconciled back to God as we must all be, to receive eternal life with the Father in Heaven. When we are born, we are born separated from God due to sin. The only remedy for the disease of sin, is Jesus Christ. Until we receive Christ as our Savior, we will forever be separated from God. If we die without receiving Christ as our Savior, we will be separated from Him eternally.

  • @Whitese7en

    Unsaved from what exactly? And how does me holding a belief somewhere in my brain about being "saved" by a 2000-year-old legendary dead rabbi achieve that?

  • @Whitese7en

    "What I think, isn't really relevant because [...]."

    It's highly relevant. You seem to think a finite crime can justify an infinite punishment. That tells me something about your personality, seeing as I don't believe in your supernatural claims.

    "Do you also think there is no evidence of his existence as well?" King Arthur or other legendary figures are usually based on historical figures, but the magic stuff was made up. Same with rabbi Yeshua.

  • @wimsweden No, not necessarily "happily ever after" but you do need to be indwelt by the Holy Spirit to receive eternal life in Heaven. What I think, isn't really relevant because I'm not the one charged with judging you eternally. The one that is charged with judging you, is Christ. Do you also think there is no evidence of his existence as well? In answer to your question, not expressing a belief in God, doesn't make someone "bad fruit" but it does make you unsaved.

  • @Whitese7en

    Oh, ok, you're one of those American-style evangelical fundamentalists who think having a particular belief in a certain part of your neural network is necessary for something or other to do with a happily ever after.

    Would you consider me bad fruit if I told you I see no evidence to think that your god is anything more than a figment of your imagination?

  • @wimsweden Nope, just a born-again Christian who submits to the authority of scripture in my life.

  • @Whitese7en

    Ah, you're a marcionite.

  • @wimsweden Nope, just a follower of Christ and his teachings.

  • @Whitese7en

    Brahma?

  • I see that this heretic is still up to his old tricks. May God have mercy on his soul.

  • @myGodis1lord

    First, "God" needs a proper definition. Call me ignostic (not agnostic) on that point. Which god concept are you talking about? If you're talking about an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and omnibenevolent supernatural being based on the Abrahamic tradition, then I see no evidence for that being and even evidence against its existence, a lot of incoherence in its omni-attributes as well as a general problem with the term "supernatural".

  • @wimsweden ...... Why dont you believe in God? If i may ask.

  • @wimsweden ... I dont know. It is in hopes that maybe one day you will change your mind about God. That you and your family are well. Only God can call someone to Him. As a believer in Jesus Christ i cannot do nothing only he can do, however i can be His hands and feet and mouthpiece that someone may see Jesus in me. i accepted Jesus when i was 6. for long time i lived a life of sin it was crazy. 9 yrs ago i gave my life back to Jesus and the misery of life does not control me no more.

  • @wimsweden ...continued, However i know that someone might say i will never turn to God and that may be the case it is my hope prayer and belief that they do. I was once a person you would prefer to never meet, the things i have done in my life. But i know where God brought me from and what he did for me. So what God has done for me compared to how i use to be, I will choose God 100 times more than the old life of sin i lived in..... that is why wimsweden i pray for you, just as ido foralotofppl

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