I would like every one to analyze their faith. Think about what you really believe in. Ask God to guide and show you the truth sincerely. Surely if you are sincere He will guide you to the truth.---
@Gazdo01 You have just called God false. Allah is the name of God in arabic. On the first page of genesis in the arabic bible you find the word Allah over 14 times.And you say Allah is false? If you didn't know it's ok, but for now on please don't state something you don't know or something that is untrue.in aramaic the word for God is Alloh. IN hebrew Aloh or Aloheim Some maybe spell it elohim. But it is the same semetic root.
@Gazdo01 By the wayJesus did not speak greek. He spoke aramaic. Logos is a greek word.And the question you are asking me: Think about your question and explain this what you are saying to a five yr. old. A word is spoken or written. The Words of God are the words God taught to the prophets to relay to the people. Such as the ten commandments, GOSPEL of jesus Christ and the Quran. It's clear and simple and rational.
@Gazdo01 What you have said is blasphemy! To say that a man is the mind of God is absolute blasphemy against God Almighty. God's knowledge is infinite. Jesus' was finite. Tell me something, since the beginning of the creation of man, people have worshiped God. The message was clear the prophets taught the same message. Simple. So why is it the message you are proclaiming to be true, is going against the time from Jesus to Adam? Were the jews expecting God to become a man?
@NoorminAllah " You just said He said the father is greater than I and now you are saying they are equal."
Yes, I said Jesus is a man, born of Mary. In that sense, he is sent by the Father, who is greater than him. BUT IN THE SAME TIME, Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, the LOGOS (=the very own MIND OF GOD)... the WORD by which everything was created.
This WORD became man in the person of Jesus.
Here's a question... is the WORD OF GOD created or not? You'll find the WORD is equal to GOD
@Gazdo01 God doesn't have a nature. Time doesn't apply to Him and neither do the physical laws of this world. Jesus NEVER said he was God this fact is confirmed in the Quran as well. You just said He said the father is greater than I and now you are saying they are equal. God Almighty is UNCOMPARABLE to ANYTHING OR ANYONE, Glory be to Him. He doesn't share His legislation nor authority with anyone. Far is He beyond that which you are saying,The Majestic, All Knowing, Creator, Almighty,Supreme
@Gazdo01 The new testament was not written by Jesus nor written by anyone who met Jesus peace be upon him. They were named Mathew Mark Luke and John not based on any certain people, but to differentiate between the four so the scholars wouldn't get mixed up. God is not part of His creation. Nor does He ever become part of His creation. No man has seen God. Jesus was not divine. He was Christ, the messiah born of the virgin Mary a prophet/messenger sent by God.
@NoorminAllah "He prayed to God. God doesn't pray to himself"
Wow geez... you're so smart...
I guess 2000 years of exquisite theology just goes down the drain...
Seriously... we KNOW Jesus prayed to God. Ever wondered why we STILL say Jesus had a divine nature??
Don't forget, Jesus was truely MAN and truely DIVINE.
By his divine nature, he's equal to the Father... by his human nature, he's inferior... He's been sent in the flesh, YES... but the WORD of God is eternal. Jesus IS the Logos.
@Gazdo01 You have just called God false. Allah is the name of God in arabic. On the first page of genesis in the arabic bible you find the word Allah over 14 times.And you say Allah is false? If you didn't know it's ok, but for now on please don't state something you don't know or something that is untrue.in aramaic the word for God is Alloh. IN hebrew Aloh or Aloheim Some maybe spell it elohim. But it is the same semetic root.
NoorminAllah 4 months ago
@Gazdo01 By the wayJesus did not speak greek. He spoke aramaic. Logos is a greek word.And the question you are asking me: Think about your question and explain this what you are saying to a five yr. old. A word is spoken or written. The Words of God are the words God taught to the prophets to relay to the people. Such as the ten commandments, GOSPEL of jesus Christ and the Quran. It's clear and simple and rational.
NoorminAllah 4 months ago
@Gazdo01 What you have said is blasphemy! To say that a man is the mind of God is absolute blasphemy against God Almighty. God's knowledge is infinite. Jesus' was finite. Tell me something, since the beginning of the creation of man, people have worshiped God. The message was clear the prophets taught the same message. Simple. So why is it the message you are proclaiming to be true, is going against the time from Jesus to Adam? Were the jews expecting God to become a man?
NoorminAllah 4 months ago
@NoorminAllah "God Almighty is UNCOMPARABLE to ANYTHING OR ANYONE"
Yes, that is the Christian faith. Read the Creeds. No need for Muhammed to remind us that. The Jews too know that...
"He doesn't share His legislation nor authority with anyone."
That is the basis of Christian faith... thanks for sharing.
"Far is He beyond that which you are saying,The Majestic, All Knowing, Creator, Almighty,Supreme"
I agree, that is why I reject a god who let's his Word be falscified, as does Allah...
Gazdo01 4 months ago
@NoorminAllah " You just said He said the father is greater than I and now you are saying they are equal."
Yes, I said Jesus is a man, born of Mary. In that sense, he is sent by the Father, who is greater than him. BUT IN THE SAME TIME, Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, the LOGOS (=the very own MIND OF GOD)... the WORD by which everything was created.
This WORD became man in the person of Jesus.
Here's a question... is the WORD OF GOD created or not? You'll find the WORD is equal to GOD
Gazdo01 4 months ago
@Gazdo01 God is not a person nor is He a spirit. He is not His creation. He created spirits and He created man.
NoorminAllah 4 months ago
@Gazdo01 You want to know exactly what Jesus said straight from God and not from man? youtube dotcom/watch?v=T5aIi3OqOJU
NoorminAllah 4 months ago
@Gazdo01 God doesn't have a nature. Time doesn't apply to Him and neither do the physical laws of this world. Jesus NEVER said he was God this fact is confirmed in the Quran as well. You just said He said the father is greater than I and now you are saying they are equal. God Almighty is UNCOMPARABLE to ANYTHING OR ANYONE, Glory be to Him. He doesn't share His legislation nor authority with anyone. Far is He beyond that which you are saying,The Majestic, All Knowing, Creator, Almighty,Supreme
NoorminAllah 4 months ago
@Gazdo01 The new testament was not written by Jesus nor written by anyone who met Jesus peace be upon him. They were named Mathew Mark Luke and John not based on any certain people, but to differentiate between the four so the scholars wouldn't get mixed up. God is not part of His creation. Nor does He ever become part of His creation. No man has seen God. Jesus was not divine. He was Christ, the messiah born of the virgin Mary a prophet/messenger sent by God.
NoorminAllah 4 months ago
@NoorminAllah "He prayed to God. God doesn't pray to himself"
Wow geez... you're so smart...
I guess 2000 years of exquisite theology just goes down the drain...
Seriously... we KNOW Jesus prayed to God. Ever wondered why we STILL say Jesus had a divine nature??
Don't forget, Jesus was truely MAN and truely DIVINE.
By his divine nature, he's equal to the Father... by his human nature, he's inferior... He's been sent in the flesh, YES... but the WORD of God is eternal. Jesus IS the Logos.
Gazdo01 4 months ago