California Gray Whales - Say No To Sonar Testing - Save the Whales

Video footage of friendly gray whales and information on the effect of the navy's desired level of Mid-frequency active (MFA) and high-frequency active (HFA) sonar testing and underwater detonations during annual training off the California Coast on the gray whale population. In total, according to the Navy's estimates, 113,205 marine mammals would experience a Level B Take annually from sonar and 853 from detonations. In addition, 30 marine mammals annually would experience a Level A Take (i.e. nearterm death) from sonar and 12 from detonations. MFA use is particularly problematic. Please say no to this type of sonar and explosives use during training exercises off California, and help the California Gray Whale and other marine mammals that would be harmed by sonar and explosives testing!

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[LeeroyFan101]

No it does not. If that were so there wouldn't be a point to building submarines now would there since they could be seen as easily the reason submarines are even around because they have the element of STEALTH.

Tell me are you in the Navy?

If not what puts you in any position to talk about military capabilities?

[LeeroyFan101]

Before you go ranting about your theories on corruption and whatnot. Maybe you should learn the difference between sonars,radars and orbital tracking because they are completely different things.

[LeeroyFan101]

Well the point is moot since the Navy won the case when it got to the supreme court.

[socarroll2]

Thanks for your comments. As a result, I have modified the video description to clarify that the problem is mid-frequency active (MFA) and high-frequency active (HFA) sonar testing and underwater detonations during training, per the Navy EIS. Im pleased that this video has gotten under your skin. Its interesting that in order to support your position you feel the need to minimize the amount of harm down to a couple of animals, while assuming protection costs in the billions.

[LeeroyFan101]

Well you said it not me. Now your contradicting yourself?

Okay so lemme get this strait you want the Navy to chance their cost effective methods and use an alternate and possibly less effective method that would probably cost billions more annually in the middle of a global recession? Just to save a few animals?

[socarroll2]

That's hardly the policy choice at hand. The issue is whether or not the Navy's desired training method should be modified, so that over 100,000 marine mammals a year off California aren't harmed (the Navy's estimate), including impacts to 20-25% of an entire species annually. We aren't talking about operations during war time -- we are talking about training exercises. There are other options for conducting effective training besides the Navy's first choice and less harmful sonar options.

[LeeroyFan101]

So your saying the life of a couple of whales or dolphins is worth more than a muti billion dollar ship and the live of several hundred crew members on board?

[GCRU486]

LeeroyFam101; Excellent point. Well said. 101% agreement.

[LeeroyFan101]

K, we'll stop using sonars the moment you come up with something that can find submarines and unexploded naval mines.