Is Deism a transitional state? - The Atheist Experience #631

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Nathan from Ashland, Ohio describes himself as a deist and wonders if Deism is a transitional state between Christianity and Atheism.

Segment of The Atheist Experience TV Show #631 of November 15, 2009. With Matt Dillahunty and Jeff Dee. Topic: Viewer calls.

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  • @greco0994

    - "im pretty sure its 50% sense neither side can prove anything"

    You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, because it's the other way around.

    Theist: "I just know that my God is real!"

    Atheist: "OK, so prove it."

    Theist: "..." [sound of chirping crickets]

    Atheist: "After more than 2000 years, that is all you have?!"

    Besides that, the Bible is a work of fiction.

  • Deism makes much more sense than atheism

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  • @wildreams Note that the key word is "conclude". Once you "conclude" something, without evidence, it IS the end of further intellectual discourse, by definition.

    Even though I do not think "finding/proving God" is the most productive way a scientist should work or find solutions, I agree that at least in principle, you can try.

  • Why believe something you think is less than 50% chance of it being true? Why not? Even if there is only 1% of it being true, and it makes you feel good, you believe in it. For example, aliens, aliens within our solar system, ancient civilizations that where never discovered (Alantis) etc. Even fairies, sea monsters and dragons etc. I don't think it is a bad thing to dream. There was no conclusive evidence that the Earth was round, but Columbus still tried to sail around the world.

  • he believes it because he wants to be true.

  • @SpecTechHD I didn't mean that you filled your life with god as much as I did your explanation of life. There are tons of other imaginable ways things "could have" worked out. It seems like you're either choosing that explanation for convenience or you want it to be true. Neither of which are giving your reasoning for believing it, which is why I was originally curious about your attitude towards this subject. You approach it looking for logic, but don't display that you're using any yourself.

  • @SpecTechHD Hahahaha!!!!!! We can't travel back in time, good one!!!! We go forward in time steadily. And we perceive this "flow" of time. THEREFORE: You need to read Heidegger.

  • @CotyKelly I'm not filling my life with God... I'm merely offering it as a solution until someone proves how the universe was created.

    I'm getting tired of replying to comments.

  • @SpecTechHD so why fill it it with a god(s) until you find out the answer?

  • @CotyKelly I don't have a need for God... I just don't see the natural means of the world possible at the moment.

  • @SpecTechHD You can observe time, especially in space via light-years with the concept that you can look at stars that don't exist anymore. Just because a manipulation of this dimension doesn't exist yet neither makes a god's existence anymore likely nor less likely for that matter. Pointing out that there are some things we don't know or haven't observed yet is mutually exclusive from claiming the unobservable to be known as existing.

  • @SpecTechHD even if that were true or relevant to reality, claiming something that is unobservable doesn't make it exist either. Unicorns can exist since you can't observe them... my point was why do you care or have a "need" for anything you can't perceive to exist?

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